In 2020, an estimated 86% of holiday shoppers planned to buy tech related gifts, spending approximately 135 billion on techy gadgets for their loved ones. Meanwhile, the correlation between increased screen time and chronic health conditions like anxiety, depression, obesity and mood disorders continues to increase. This year, why not buck the trend and focus on a low-tech holiday to create a happier and healthier experience for everyone in your family. And that’s what SYB’s in-house EMF specialist, Cathy Cooke, covers in this webinar recorded on November 18, 2021.
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In this webinar you’ll learn:
• How the increased reliance on tech is harming your family
• How to implement a ‘low-tech’ holiday
• How to set boundaries with your friends and families regarding tech use and exposure
• How to create a ‘low-tech’ wish list for yourself
• How to give ‘low-tech’ gifts your family and friends will love
• …and how to protect yourself from EMF exposure when you are exposed.
R Blank 0:02
Okay, everyone, welcome. I don’t know if you Oh, I think you can see me. Sorry, I have too many things going on not just on my monitor, but in life. Greetings, everyone. Thank you so much for joining us on today’s very special webinar celebrating low tech holidays. I’m really excited for today’s webinar, because well, I’ll tell you in a second. First, let’s cover the outline. As you’ll see, we’ll start with intros these are going to be very quick just to give a few more minutes for people to come in. And also so you know who you’re hearing from him today, then you’ll see the main content will be about 2025 minutes. That’s a lot shorter than a lot of our webinars. So we’ll definitely have time for q&a. For the q&a questions and answer, please make sure to post any questions that you have in the q&a pod, not in the chat bot, if you post them in the chat bot, I probably won’t see them. And if you submitted them in advance through the Google Form we already happens. Okay, very briefly about me. I’m your host. We have a separate presenter today. But I am your host, my name is R blank. I am the CEO of shield your body, formerly taught on the faculty at the University of Southern California Viterbi School of Engineering, along with my father, Dr. Martin Blanc, co author of overpower about the science of EMF health effects. And this all follows a 20 year career in software engineering. So if you’ve been following my emails for the past few weeks, you’ll see that I’ve been talking a lot about digital detox. In fact, right now we’re starting work on season two of the healthier tech podcast. And it’s also going to be all about digital detox. And digital detox is is always an important topic, I think. But right now, I think it’s particularly important. Obviously, I see a lot of value in what tech has brought us tech. You know, as I just told you, I used to be a software engineer. I was deeply integrated with the high tech community and lifestyle, but there is a particularly in California, but increasingly around the world. But even back then I was a big fan of disconnecting. At night. On the weekends, I was infamous for being the only guy in my peer group that you couldn’t actually reach when I was on vacation. Now with the holidays coming soon, I think now’s a great time to take some active steps to use less tech this holiday season. After all, for the last 18 months, many of us have been using a lot more tech, and I mean a lot more tech. It helped us work remotely. It helped our children with distance learning. It helped us see doctors remotely. It also helped us keep us it also helped keep us sane. But there’s a growing amount of research showing us that all this tech is really stressing us out. And this holiday season as the world is getting more back to normal. I believe it is time to start reclaiming reclaiming our sanity. And that’s why I asked Kathy to come back and give a talk about how to have a lower tech holiday season. Kathy, for many of you in the community, Katherine needs no introduction. She is our in house EMF specialist and also the consultants that we bet you can book time with through our website at shield your body calm. She is a certified building biologist. She is a certified electromagnetic radiation specialist. And she is a certified holistic nutritionist who focuses a lot about issues related to sleep and the bedroom. And I apologize if you’re hearing my dog in the background. There’s nothing I can do about that while I’m actively presenting. And you can see more about her at Whole Home and body health.com as well as on the shield your body website where she has multiple articles, webinar archives, and as I said we can easily book time with her. So with that, I’m going to hand it over to Kathy so please just give me one second while I do the handoff here
there we go Kathy, can you see all the all the godlike controls available?
Cathy Cooke 4:27
I think I got it. Let’s see here.
R Blank 4:29
Cathy Cooke 4:30
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, it is excellent to be here with everybody again today. Um, so um, if you have not been on one of our webinars before, I just want to take a quick second to introduce myself like our said, my name is Cathy cook and I’m a board certified holistic nutritionist building, biology environmental consultant and electromagnetic radiation specialists. So what all that means is that I help people find optimal health while addressing imbalances in both the body and the environment. And I came to this work after decades of my own health struggles. So when I realized over the years, what I realized is that you can’t just have a great diet and exercise routine, you must also address all of your lifestyle habits, your stress, your mental outlook, and of course, your home and workplace environment. So no amount of green, you know, smoothies, like we all like to do, is going to help you if you’re living in a moldy house, or you’re sleeping with your phone under your pillow. And yes, I know a lot of people that do that, we actually have to address all of the things to reach the level of optimal wellness that we all desire. So that’s what I help people do in my practice. And if any of you have dealt with chronic mysterious health symptoms, I’m sure that you can relate to this. So now that you know who I am, let’s just jump into the topic today, creating a low tech holiday. So since we’re talking about the holidays, that means that fall is upon us. And I hope you’re all transitioning well into this autumnal season. I know that for me personally shifting from the warm, sunny days of summer, into the darker, cooler days of fall can sometimes be challenging. I love the long summer days where I can just soak up the sun and be outside as much as I’d like. And I mean, for me, it can really take a lot of discipline to adjust to the shorter days and more time spent indoors. But one thing that I always look forward to this time of year is the holiday seasons that with dear loved ones, and hopefully a little downtime from the busyness of work in life. The fall season also provides us with a great opportunity to reflect on the previous year, take inventory on how we’re feeling about our lives, and set intentions for the new year ahead. I find this practice to be quite helpful and keeping me grounded in present. It’s not an easy practice, though, especially in our western culture that doesn’t exactly promote downtime. We’re constantly bombarded with stimuli to divert our attention. And the I’ll sleep when I’m dead attitude is as strong as ever. And of course, that attitude is directly linked to an amplified by the use of our modern day technology. So the tech industry really knows how to keep us coming back. There’s a lot of science behind those pings and dings from your gadgets. And cell phone addiction is a very real thing. In fact, a study by the Nielsen Company in 2019 show that Americans spent about 10 hours and 30 minutes interacting with media every day, every single day. And in a study conducted by Baylor University cell phone addiction was linked to impulsiveness, materialism, and a preoccupation with material objects as opposed to intellectual, spiritual or cultural values. And mental health professionals have recognized that social media addiction can cause an impaired self esteem, impaired work performance and interpersonal conflicts. So to put this into perspective, I just want to give you some statistics here. 60% of US college students claim that they have a cell phone addiction 71% of people sleep with or next to their cell phones. And you know that those people aren’t putting them in airplane mode, like many of you probably are 35% of people this this one really gets me 35% of people think of their cell phones when they wake up. Well, only 10% of people think of their significant others. 44% of 18 to 24 year olds have fallen asleep with their phone in their hand.
And 36% of people check their phones constantly, while 54% of young adults are checking their phone constantly. nearly 40% of people never disconnect from their cell phone even while on vacation. And finally 44% of Americans say they could not go a day without their mobile device. And here is the source. The stats were found on site psych guides dot calm if you want to check that out into the chat. Oh, perfect, thank you. So here’s a study that was published on the National Institutes of Health website that looked at the Association of psychological well being and time spent on screens. The authors found that quote, children and adolescents who spend more time using screen media were lower in psychological well being than low users. High users of screens were significantly more likely to display poor emotion regulation, which means not staying calm, they argued too much. And they were being difficult to get along with an inability to finish tasks, lower curiosity, and more difficulty making friends, caregivers who described high users as more difficult to care for and as lower in self control. among adolescents, high users versus low, were also twice as likely to have received diagnosis of depression or anxiety or needed treatment for mental health or behavioral health conditions. Moderate users were also significantly more likely than low users of screens to be low in wellbeing, and among 14 to 17 year old to have been diagnosed with depression or anxiety, or needed mental health treatment. So, um, that’s a lot of information. And you get the idea that the more were using our screens, the more likely we are to have issues like anxiety and depression and irritability. And we argue and we’re not calm, and we’re difficult to get along with. There’s there’s a significant amount of research that backs up this specific study. But there’s a lot of research that you can find online. So I don’t know about you, but I find these statistics to be alarming. And this just isn’t the kind of world that I want to live in. So the question then is, what do we do about it? How do we move the needle in the opposite direction and reconnect with our kids or friends or loved ones in person? How do we break the cycle? So I’m not going to pretend like there’s an easy answer. You know, I work with people every single day, and I help them lower their EMF exposure in their homes. Most people are usually well willing to fix the wiring errors, maybe hardware, their devices even turn off their breakers at night. But it’s a very rare person that is willing to turn off, get rid of or even modify their cell phone use. They just won’t do it. So the addiction is very real. So I think we have to start with a mind shift, we need to think about what we prioritize in life. So to do this, I have people use pen and paper to make a list about what is most important to them in life. The common answers usually involve family, friends, pets, happiness, freedom, nature, health, all the things that our technology usage actually threatens. And when my clients see on paper, what they actually value most compared to how they actually spend their time, then actually changing their behaviors becomes quite a bit easier. So that’s what I want to help you do today. Given that we’re coming up on the holiday season is the perfect time to plan ahead for a holiday spirit with intention, awareness, and authentic connection with our loved ones. So first of all, let’s define what we mean by low tech holiday. This may seem obvious, but given how our phones have become like a fifth limb of our body, that obvious can really get overlooked here. Basically, a low tech holiday means intentionally surrendering your techie gadgets for set periods of time. If it’s an electronic, of any kind, your usage of it should be as minimal as possible. So when we aren’t using our technology, that means what are we doing or engaging in other activities like face to face interaction and conversation, cooking, reading, exercising, playing with our kids or pets, relaxing, meditating, napping, sledding, skiing, being out in nature, or the plethora of activities that humans used to do for millennia before the advent of technology.
So I’m sure I don’t have to tell you the myriad of health benefits associated with any of these activities. And for me, personally, I’ll take any one of these options over, you know, looking at a cell phone or scrolling through social media. So how do we do it? The first thing to do is to create a plan. You want to outline this outline the specific rules and parameters around you and your family’s tech use. It’s a really good idea to have all house members involved in developing this plan. So you want to get very specific so all family members know exactly what the rules are. And if you live alone, this is still important to do, you’re much more likely to stick to a plan that you actually write out and commit to following. So everyone’s plan is going to be different. But these are the main areas you want to include. And I just want to mention to for anybody that signed up for for the webinar today, you’re actually going to get a handout with all of this information on it. I will send that to you in an email following the webinar. But you know, you can take notes, but you will be getting a little handout that has all of these steps and these questions on it. So the the main questions that you want to think about how many hours per day of screen time is allowed, that may be none, it may be 10. Maybe that would kind of defeat the purpose, but you know that that number is up to you. What define screen time doesn’t include watching TV or a movie does work or schoolwork count what specific hours or times of the day our screens not allowed. For example, maybe the first hour of the morning, maybe during dinner time, maybe two hours before bed? What is allowable at parties or when guests are in your home? Perhaps this is a 100% screen free time. Or perhaps you might allow for the occasional text here and there because people are making plans. identify specific areas of the home that are screen free zones, for example, bedrooms, the kitchen, maybe bathrooms. Do you want to establish a digital detox for you and your family? And we’ll talk more about what a digital detox is in a minute. What activities will be encouraged? instead? Do you want to set specific times for exercise mindfulness alone time or family time? So these are the general ideas and of course, anything that you want to add as this is going to be very specific to you and your family. But those are the main questions that you want to answer. And don’t you know, don’t forget, your plan can be modified. So you may develop a plan. And then a weekend, you may say, this isn’t really working for us, we have to modify it and these ways totally fine, you can totally go back and modify your plan. But, you know, I just want to say to don’t be afraid of a little discomfort either. This is not going to be an easy shift. So you might feel a little uncomfortable. So don’t go right to modifying it. If you’re like, ooh, that’s tough. You know, give it a chance a little discomfort is okay. But the rewards will definitely be worth it. Okay, so after you have your plan, the next step is to make your intentions known. So let your family and friends know that you plan to create a more intentional holiday. Tell them you don’t want any techie gadgets this year, and that you plan to disconnect more and there may be delays in your responses. Not only is this setting the stage for a more intentional experience, but whoever you share your intentions with may be inspired to do the same. Now I do want to acknowledge here that not everyone can travel for various reasons, and many of us may not get to see our loved ones face to face. This is a common reality. And in that case, connecting online can be very valuable. Just remember the basics here. You want to do this on a hardwired internet connection instead of Wi Fi. And if for some reason you have to use a cell phone, be sure to use a phone pouch or sling bag like the ones that shield your body cells, along with an air tube headset. This isn’t as good as hard wiring your connection, but it’s definitely better than no protection at all.
So you also want to tell your loved ones that you not only are you You don’t want techy gifts, but you’re not going to give techie gifts in return. So the gifts that you give are going to be low tech gifts this year. Some of my favorite low tech gifts include gift certificates for massages, bodywork spa days in person classes, gym memberships, restaurant, Body Care clothes, I mean so many. I actually have many friends that instead of giving their kids tangible gifts for the holidays, they give experiences instead. So that may mean they plan a trip for the family to a special place or they all take a class together like for gene or beekeeping. Sometimes it’s a night out at the movies or down the slopes. But the intent here is to focus on real life experiences, rather than virtual ones. Now let’s talk about parties and other get togethers, you want to set some boundaries, especially when you host gatherings at your home. Of course, you want to remember to let guests know ahead of time, this is really important, so they aren’t surprised by your requests. So here’s some of the things that I do. When guests arrive at my home, I have them placed their phones and their smartwatches or any other devices, their earbuds, I have them put it in a Faraday box at the front door. And here’s a pro tip, metal lunchboxes work great for this. So guess, you know, they may be uncomfortable by this request at first. But I find that the richness of the evening is always quite enhanced when people let go of their devices, obviously. I also let my guests know that there’s no Wi Fi inside my home. Now, if you’re implementing the previous step, this is kind of a non issue. But it’s good to let people know that you’re hardwired and Wi Fi is not available. So you know, I really think that modeling this behavior and letting people see how easy it is can be very inspiring to others to do the same thing in their own homes. And another thing I like to do is revive old traditions. So most families have, you know, traditions that have been passed down through the years or even generations, I let my guests know that we’ll be honoring some of those traditions. And that means we do activities that do not involve tech, you know, these traditions come from my grandparents time, and they weren’t using a cell phone. So many of these traditions include playing charades, going outside and playing football. And of course, indulging in our favorite holiday recipes. healthy ones, of course, everybody’s gonna have different traditions, but I really encourage people to bring those back if they have, you know, escaped their families, because I have found that for a lot of people, it’s more of looking at their phones rather than really engaging. Now, if the party’s not at your home, I also set boundaries ahead of time while in the car on the way to the party. So you might not, you know, really have the ability to have a low tech environment in somebody else’s home. But there’s usually a lot of travel to see family and friends this time of year, that could be in a car, oftentimes on an airplane. And in those situations, I have everyone that’s in my car, put their devices on airplane mode, or I haven’t put it in the metal lunchbox. For airline travel, there’s a whole list of things that you can do, and a whole list of things that I do to keep my exposure low or to mitigate my exposure. But you know, that’s a whole nother webinar, it’s a big list of things. You can at a minimum, however, keep your devices turned off as the exposure from the devices closest to you will be bigger than anything else. And so this is a mistake that I see a lot of people do, especially when they’re traveling or when they’re in an inherently high EMF environment. They just continue to use their phones because they think well, everybody else has their phone on or I’m in an airplane or there’s Wi Fi in here. So they just continue to use their device. But according to the inverse square law, your proximity to your device is giving you a much bigger exposure than even the person next to you or in the same room as you are across the table. So you still want to be cognizant of your devices and keep them in airplane mode with Wi Fi and Bluetooth off.
Okay, finally, you can plan a digital detox. So a digital detox is a specified amount of time when you when you and your family will abstain from any tech devices at all. So this can be anywhere from a few hours to a few days. Whatever you feel like is best for your family. You know, I’m really happy to see actually that this concept has caught on in the last few years. In fact, I’ve seen entire vacation destinations and retreat centers that provide a completely tech free environment. So the obvious benefits here include more time to enjoy connecting with your loved ones more presence, less distraction, more time or reflection for doing activities you love like reading art projects being out in nature exercising or my favorite napping with cats right? Lovely activity. If you want to take this a step further, you can do an energy fast. This actually happens to be one of my favorite activities. This is when you not only refrain from technology but from all forms of energy including Electricity, of course, you can light candles or have a fire. So campaign is a great way to do this. But I really like to practice this at home, it can really challenge you to think more intentionally about how you’re spending your time. When you’re not relying on electricity for anything, you also allow your brain to be more creative and relaxed. I know families that play board games, make forts, build fires in the backyard push raids, or just make up their own traditions. So there’s no better way to reconnect with yourself, your pets, your family and your friends, not to mention the benefits of inherently being in a low EMF environment. So I realized that not all of these suggestions are realistic for everyone. And we can really only control what’s in our own environment. So most of us are probably heading out into the world during the holidays where we will be exposed to EMFs we can’t control so in light of that, I want to give you just some really quick suggestions on ways you can protect yourself while you’re out and about. So the first thing you can do is focus on your diet. So back in the spring, I did a webinar on EMS in nutrition. If you miss that you can find it on the shield your body YouTube channel. But for a quick recap, are deeply pigmented foods that contain a lot of antioxidants can help us combat some of the oxidative stress that happens from our EMF exposure. So good choices are things like you know, the dark green, dark, leafy greens, berries, squash, cabbage, cherries, and pretty much all spices. Whenever I have to bring a food item to get together, it’s almost always a big green salad with loads of vegetables. Everybody loves a good salad and that way I know that I will have something that I can indulge indulgent as well. Another very important yet overlooked habit is to entrain your circadian rhythm. There are so many benefits to this. It’s really outside the scope of our talk today. But the more in tune your body is with the earth daily rhythm, the better your body will function overall. And one of the most important things you can do here is to get early morning sunlight on your body and get outside as much as possible during the day. This will help you sleep better reduce inflammation, improve your blood sugar balance and make your body more resilient all the way around. While you’re at it, you know if you’re going outside, don’t forget to connect your body to the earth. So grounding or earthing are still valuable habits to incorporate into your day. When we connect to the Earth’s own Schumann Resonance, we get a flood of negative ions that can help reduce inflammation and oxidative stress in our bodies that we may be getting from EMS. Of course, it’s best to do this in as a remote location as possible. But you get the added benefit of being out in nature. When you do this, that sunlight fresh air, you know all the good things.
So don’t forget about a daily mindfulness practice, we all know how damaging stress can be on our bodies. The more stress we add, the less resilient Our bodies become. So incorporating a daily mindfulness practice, whatever that looks like for you, it could be yoga, it could be meditation, breathing techniques, prayer, whatever it is, it all has tremendous potential to aid the body in healing and combating the stress from the EMF exposure that we may have. And I’m very optimistic about the fact that recent research has shown that you can reap the benefits in as little as just 12 minutes a day. So if you can just do this for 12 minutes, once a day. And finally, if needed, you may want to invest in some physical protection. And by that I mean things like protective clothing, phone pouches, blankets, canopies, etc. Now remember, while these devices are great for providing us protection, they should only be used in conjunction with minimizing our exposure in all other areas. And since since we know that so many people aren’t yet aware of the dangers of EMF, we’re invariably exposed outside of our own homes. So that’s when the clothing the phone pouches the neck gators can really help to protect us. Obviously, I’m partial to the shield your body products. I think they’re amazing. I particularly like the clothing like the boxers and the neck gator. And for those people in your life that just won’t put their phones down. I’m a big fan of the phone pouches and the air tube headsets So I bet you guys can guess what everyone in my family is getting for Christmas this year. So, to put this all together, I personally believe that there’s a lot to gain from focusing on experiences instead of things. And I’m sure that most of you would agree with me. It’s the experiences we have that create our memories, not the gadgets in our lives. So remember, holidays are about your family and friends, not Facebook, and Twitter. So let’s try to be present as much as we can, rather than distracted by the pings on our phones. There are so many things we can do without our devices, we can cook together, make decorations, play board games, write handwritten notes to our friends that we can’t be with this year. We can bake cookies for our neighbors and co workers, we can exercise together, take a yoga class, go skiing, go sledding, you get the idea. Not only does limiting our tech use have the ability to create deeper experiences. It can improve our health in so so so many ways. So I hope this inspires you to incorporate some of these techniques in your holiday season. It might not be easy, but I promise you’ll be very happy that you did. So I’ll leave you with one final question today. What kind of memories do you want to have this holiday season? And with that, I know that we’ve got some questions. And as I promised, I’m going to be doing a q&a session here in a moment, but I believe that R has some things he would like to discuss. So I’m gonna stop my video and send this back to our whoops, if I can do this, I’m sure that I can. There we go.
R Blank 32:00
Cool. Thank you, Kathy. Give me one second here. Okay, I think I’m screen sharing. And thank you very much, Kathy. That was it was really great. And I know a lot of the participants are really happy to have the opportunity to learn all this important information from an expert like you. Oh wow. I don’t know if I’m still broadcasting
Cathy Cooke 32:33
you are I can hear you and I can see your screen. Oh, did we lose you?
Hmm, looks like our is having some technical difficulties, though. I hear you. I hear you typing.
Okay, guys, well, well are is trying to figure that out. We’ve got, we’ve got we’ve got a question. So I am going to go ahead and start answering some questions until we get our back so he can finish up his segment. Um, so Raman asks, What exactly do you mean by mindfulness? And that is a great question. So, for mindfulness, um, most of us think of meditation, for mindfulness, but it doesn’t have to be, it’s just basically intentionally brings bringing an awareness to the present moment. So whatever that looks like for you, mindfulness could be prayer. It could be breathing techniques and following your breath. It could be meditation, mindfulness, sometimes can come from yoga or intentional. You know, intentional, sorry, are just his, told me he was crashed, and he’s trying to get back on. So that distracted me a little bit. But anything that’s very intentional, that puts you back into the present moment, rather than thinking ahead thinking in the past. So mindfulness is, you know, very, very powerful techniques to calm down your nervous system, and to when we have more presence in the present moment. We have a lot less stress. Again, our nervous system calms down. So we have a lot less anxiety. It’s very, very beneficial for things like depression, and cognitive health. And it’s just, it’s just so powerful, so many, many ways you can achieve mindfulness. I personally have been doing Wim Hof breathing for the last several months and I find it to be very, very profound. I think it’s fantastic. I’ll actually go ahead and type that into the chat. It’s about a 1010 to 15 minute breathing technique. I you know, if anybody wants to check that out, I highly, highly recommend it. So good question. Okay, um, let’s see, CeCe says, a loved one has type one diabetes, it’s the kind that requires constant insulin infusion to stay alive. I think I know where you’re going with this. She has chosen to have a continuous glucose monitoring system, the sensor on her body interfaces with her cell phone for management? Can you recommend a shielding product that will max maximize protection while enabling it to communicate with her? Her monitor and cell phone? Yeah, Cece, this is such a difficult question. And one that I’ve deal dealt with with a lot of my clients. And I struggled to have a great answer for you, um, it’s, it’s something that it, it can have a lot of benefit, the continuous monitor, because it gives you live feedback about what’s happening with your glucose everyday, but we all know, that EMF can disrupt our blood sugar balance. So it’s such a, it’s such a conundrum. Um, I suggest to my clients that if they can get off of it, that they do so. But of course, I’m not a physician, I’m not giving medical advice. And that’s something that they have to talk with their doctor about. But I know so many of my clients that say it’s really helped me, this constant feedback has helped me, one thing that I like to do is tell them, Okay, use it for a couple months to get the pattern, get your own pattern, and keep really good data about how your food choices interfere with your diabetes, because our food choices, or stress or sleep will all impact our blood sugar balance. So once they can get a couple months of data, that they then can connect, you know, the behaviors, the food choices that are optimal for them, then maybe they can come off of the continuous monitor. Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn’t. But you know, I don’t really know, at this point, how to shield that because it has to have that constant communication. And it’s, you know, the patch is usually connected right to the body. And I don’t know how to get in the middle of that. It’s a great question. So one that I continually try to answer, but unfortunately, I don’t have an amazing answer for you yet.
R Blank 37:45
Hey, Kathy, can you hear me? Yep, gotcha. I can see it too. Okay. Sorry, everyone. Um, so let me jump. Yep, jump into screen share. Cool, can
Cathy Cooke 38:06
everyone see? It looks good to me.
R Blank 38:09
Okay. Sorry about that. That was real life. Entering into the equation here. My computer just completely just stopped, I guess my computer to Kathy’s words quite to heart and decided the low technologies are going to start early. But I am back. So I was going to thank happy it sounds like you already got into q&a. So but I I was going to thank Kathy for, for Kathy, for general, for contributing your time for this topic is is you know, this is a really important one for me personally. And we will get back to q&a here in a second. So if you have any questions, type them into the q&a pod. I see Faye just did that, and we have some that people submitted in advance. Before we get back to that though, I did want to give everyone a special coupon. This is again, this is not a sales webinar. But I like doing this on every webinar just as a thank you for taking the time out of your schedules to attend. So what we have is a 20% off coupon. So you can you can get started a little bit early on your holiday shopping. So this works on my entire catalogue, the cell phone protection, the headsets, the anti radiation headsets, the anti radiation canopies which have become quite popular this year. And I seem to have exited out or There we go. And as Kathy mentioned the apparel which which I love the Necator I really love that but we have the bandana and we have the the underwear and and other products as well. So this works on the entire catalog. So just enter the code, low tech 20 at checkout this works through midnight tonight. Before we get to q&a. I did want to underscore one other thing. Like I say this coupon works on the entire A catalog that includes EMF consulting, which is your ability to book time with Kathy, to get personalized EMF advice, she is a certified EMF expert, you can do this from the comfort of your home or office wherever you want using zoom on your own schedule, and you can get a recording of your session. So there’s 20% coupon works on the consulting just like it does on the, the rest of my catalogue. For consulting, you can just visit shield your body comm slash consult or click consulting in the navigation. So final note there, I’ll keep this up the coupon is low tech 20 to save 20% of my strength through midnight tonight Pacific time. So back to the q&a. Let’s see we have I’m going to have to stop my sharing, which is I think fine because everyone I think would prefer to see Kathy anyway to load up these questions. And let’s see, let’s start with there was one that stood out to me. And then there were a couple others too that I want to get to. But how it and this is kind of a broad question, Kathy. So I, wherever you want to take it is good with me? How can you help an addict, a child addicted to his phone to get off it and do something else he sleeps with? It never puts it down? That’s not the child that she believes this is should be her child? Sure,
Cathy Cooke 41:35
yeah, such a very, very common dilemma. Very difficult situation. Um, you know, one, there’s multiple ways you can go about this. And there are therapists, psychologists, psychiatrists, and other therapists that specialize in phone addiction and tech addiction. So you might seek out someone in your area or of course, you can do it remotely these days. But I’m, you know, that would probably be one area that I would go and you can find that you can just Google that online, you know, to find someone in your area. Another thing that can be helpful for some kids is doing that same activity that I do with my clients is having them write down on a pen and paper what’s most valuable to them in life. And then additionally, they can write down how they spend their time. And then have them make the connection about what’s most important to them, and what’s most valuable to them. And if if how they’re spending their time is achieving those goals and prioritizing what’s most important to them, that I’ve seen that be very profound for a lot of people just when they really look at it on paper, and really think about how much time they’re spending on their devices, versus what they really want to be doing. That can be really profound. Um, so you know, the other thing is the health implications, you know, I have a family member that suffers from pretty severe anxiety and depression. And that person is on their device constantly, which does not help it. And I don’t, I don’t bring it forward. But the times when they do ask me for my advice about what can I do about this problem, I show them some of the research on the on the connection between devices and mental health, some of the research that we talked about today, I’ll just maybe send it to them in or in an email or just say, Hey, I just came across this study. And see seeing it from somebody else other than me, can be helpful seeing it in a scientific research study. You know, I don’t know how old your child is, um, but that has been helpful as well. So, you know, ultimately, you can try those things, but I probably really would reach out to an expert that deals with tech addiction, because they’re going to have a lot more ideas, then I can present to you but that those, those are some things I would try.
R Blank 44:18
That was good, Kathy, thank you. And I also pasted in the chat pod we had on one of the UK’s leading tech addiction experts on Season One of the healthier tech podcast so I posted a link to that, that episode and I see CC. High CC has pasted a link to a book from Dr. Victoria Dunkley. So that also sounds like a good resource. So they’re, it’s not an easy question, but there are a lot of resources aimed at this. You know, one thing that came out in that episode, which I think I’d heard before, but I’d forgotten is that the World Health Organization does recognize tech addiction, but for some He said so far they only recognize it in in gaming. So they recognize gaming addiction as a disorder. But but not not cellphone addiction or social media addiction, at least not yet. But there’s there’s a lot of work being done in this area as people really try to attack. It’s one of the biggest challenges I think of our time. And there are a lot of challenges.
Cathy Cooke 45:22
Yeah, I forgot about that book. Thank you, Cece, for putting that in there. There’s a couple other books on this, too. But that’s a that’s a great recommendation. That’s a great place to start.
R Blank 45:33
Now, here’s another one. And I don’t know how you want to, I know how I would answer it. But I want to see how you would because there’s, it’s not one with an easy answer. I want to know which iPhone would be the lowest radiation wise option for my almost 13 year old son, we’ve avoided him carrying a phone for this this long, but we now need him to have one. So we can FaceTime on it. And, and he can he’s also he can go into anaphylaxis since the need for phone and one that she can see him on. Perhaps you could rank them going back as far as you want. I do plan on buying radiation protection from SBI before it, but she she wants to get the best possible phone as a starting point. And I would I well, I there’s no really easy answer to this question. I do want to recognize and underscore that approach, which is, even with radiation protection, you definitely want to get the lowest you want to cut the radiation in from the source as much as possible before thinking about radiation protection. But Kathy, Could you could you?
Cathy Cooke 46:41
Well, I can try. Um, that’s a challenging question and, and the results often.
R Blank 46:50
Cathy Cooke 46:53
it’s kind of like, you know, it’s kind of like saying, Oh, I’m gonna drink a liter of vodka tonight versus my case of beer. I mean, the levels and the exposure is so high, regardless of what it is that even a lower amount is still obnoxious Lehigh. And so there’s also different variables with all of the phone. So some of them, the radio frequency may be slightly less than others, but then it might have a higher magnetic field, or a higher electric field when it’s charging. So, you know, of, of myself and all of my colleagues that have had this discussion and talked about all of the different options, we don’t really have one that we can recommend and say this one is better than this one. With a few caveats. Um, I would definitely try to get an older used one that does not have 5g capability. That would be one thing to start, you know, you can get plenty of good used iPhones, or if it has to be an iPhone, that are not 5g enabled, I would start there. Um, we used to say that a flip phone was great, but I don’t know that you can get them anymore because a lot of them worked on 3g technology and three G’s being. What’s the term they use? sundown? Sundown something like sunsetted sunset at? Sunset? Yes. So 3g is going away very soon, which means pretty much your options are 4g, 4g LTE. Um, and yeah, I would just say the older the model you can get, um, you know, probably like an iPhone six would be where I would start and getting a used one would would be a better option. There are some quote unquote, low tech cell phones out there like the mu DITA but that does not have phased in
R Blank 49:05
to video. And right, and you need an apple one to do FaceTime in particular.
Cathy Cooke 49:10
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I would go out if you can get a good six or seven. That’s the way I would go.
R Blank 49:18
Yeah. And to add that, that’s great. And I would add a couple of notes to that. One is that you can just basically not trust the star rating that’s published with these phones. They’re all I have a whole set of content kind of trying to explain why that is. But it’s at the end of the day, it’s all arbitrary. And, and, and basically meaningless from the perspective of your personal exposure. The second thing is make sure to enable only those connections that you need. So for instance, you know, if your goal is EMF mitigation, but you still need a cell phone, well, odds are you’re probably not going to need a Bluetooth device. So make sure the Bluetooth is disabled on the phone. Same with Wi Fi, if you’re not actually using Wi Fi, make sure Wi Fi is disabled on the phone, you can do all of that and still keep the phone active. So disable the connections that you don’t need, even even if you need them at some point, just turn them on at that point and then turn it back off. And and then practice other safe tech practices. So keeping the phone as far away from the body as possible, never holding it up to your head to talk. Never Never use air pods and and a whole series of others that you probably already know if if you’re in the Sci Fi community. So but at the end of the day, you know, just you can’t really trust the star ratings. And As Kathy said, you know, they’re they’re, they’re all very, very high doses. So but there are safer ways to use it. And yeah, the more detail which I’ve heard of, I didn’t know if it was out or not. But that certainly wouldn’t have video. Okay, let’s see. I’ll answer this one quickly. So Brian asks, if if there’s a timeframe that si B caps or new baseball cap will be back in stock? I assume you’re in the US, because they are in stock everywhere else. So, in the US, we do not have a date yet. I apologize. But everywhere else. They’re either shipping right now or will be, you know, this week or next week. Thank you. Let’s see another question. I really liked that first one with the addict. How do you stop a child? A lot of these questions that we got an advanced Cathy are about basically shielding and protection. Which I’m happy to get into, but I would like to try to pull out some of the less the ones more directly related to today’s topic. So here’s one kind of bridges that gap between less tech and protection. But how safe are the Fitbit? What do you call those bands? The Fitbit? Yes. And are the newer ones any safer?
Cathy Cooke 52:14
New or I don’t know what, I don’t know what the newer would be as far as the newer ones that have come out. I don’t know when the last release was but no.
R Blank 52:24
I mean, I was I was talking with I’m not a I don’t follow Fitbit that much. But I was talking with a customer last month. And she told me that her Fitbit, she was able to basically disable the wireless when she was using it, and then sync it up with her computer on demand.
Cathy Cooke 52:44
Yeah, I so that’s I have actually heard that recently, as well, um, which is great. If that is true. So and previous years, I know that the Fitbit and other fitness tracking devices, you couldn’t disable the Bluetooth at all. But since the aura ring came out, and they have that ability, I think that’s been more of a demand from people. So if if you can and, and I even think um, the newer Apple Watches May, I don’t want to say that that there, I have seen this from some clients that some of the newer devices, you can disable the Bluetooth. So if you can do that, and you want to track your steps or your whatever, you know, parameters they track throughout the day and then sync it once or twice a day. That’s great. I would just make sure you don’t talk to the manufacturer to confirm this. And I would also want to test it with a meter to confirm it. And if that’s the case, fine. Um, you know, I have seen some of my clients have gotten radiation rashes on their wrists from wearing them. So I’m pretty
R Blank 53:56
Yes. Oh, and actually posted a pretty terrifying photo to our Facebook page. Oh, really? Over the weekend with damage to their wrist from an Apple Watch. I had never seen anything like that. I was I was pretty shocked.
Cathy Cooke 54:09
Yeah, I’ve seen it quite a bit. In fact, I Yeah, I’ve seen it on young, teenage, young teenagers. So if you have the ability to truly disable it, and the manufacturer can tell you that that is actually the fact and you can test it, then that might be an option.
R Blank 54:27
Yeah, that would be the only way in which I would ever recommend a wearable is if it has that capability. But it’s really hard. I mean, you have to do the research in advance, which is I think, what Kathy’s answer is really illuminating, because a lot you know, if you’re a high tech company, marketing a product to the public. It’s in a lot of your marketing. It’s not going to be a feature that you want to promote that it’s not constantly connected. So it’s not going to be necessarily immediately apparent in the in the marketing materials. or on the website or whatnot. So you actually have to dig in and find out in advance before you make the purchase if it really, if it basically has an airplane mode or not, if it can work that way. And but I do know that something some of these devices do have that option, but it’s hard to figure out which ones. Um, let’s see,
Cathy Cooke 55:21
we are but you have a you have a wrist device that they give I
R Blank 55:25
know, but I yeah, I know. But I never Yes, we have that for people who, who still want to wear smartwatches. So we have the newest swipey wristband, and is for people who still want to wear smartwatches. But I’m never going to tell people to go out and buy a smartwatch. Right, but because it makes it safe. So this the SI B wristband, I can pull up the URL for people so you can see it, it does make it safer to wear a smartwatch. But I still recommend heavily against using them of that, you know, that said, there are some instances where it does make sense for people, but these are really limited instances. So for instance, I had a relative who had a cardiac arrhythmia, and it would never show up when he went to the doctor. And so he needed to wear a wearable in order to diagnose the arrhythmia. And and, you know, there’s a you don’t have to have an arrhythmia. There’s other conditions like that. But those are instances where I’m like, Yeah, I think a smart device makes a lot of sense if it can actually diagnose things that are life threatening. But in most of you know, it, this is going to get worse, right? Because the wearable revolution, quote unquote, is really just starting. And we so we have the Apple Watch, we have the air pods, we now have the RE band stories from Facebook, we used to have Google Glass, that’s gone. But there’s the snap glasses, and you’re starting to see more and more of these articles about products coming out. And the aura ring, I’m getting a lot of questions now about the aura ring, and Fitbits. And you’re really just at the start of this. And in my opinion, it is it is hugely dangerous, and you just need to not do it, you need to not opt into the wearables, because there’s no way to use them more safely. And there’s in most instances, there’s no way to use an EMF protection product effectively against them. And so, um, so that’s why I didn’t even want to promote the wristband, Kathy,
Cathy Cooke 57:38
but yeah, well, for somebody I mean, you know, yeah, for someone
R Blank 57:42
who wants it. Yeah, it is. I mean, I like the product. Because there are, I make products for people all the time, like for use cases that I recommend against all the time, right. So I mean, the phone pouch was my first it was was my first product, it was my fifth product, it was my first big product. And that’s to make it safer to carry your phone. And I never carry my phone in my pocket like never or I put it into airplane mode if I do. And I that’s a huge recommendation I make to people, but there are people who need to, you know, for work, for instance, or they just don’t have anywhere else on their body to carry your phone. And so even though I strongly recommend against the use cases that require the phone pouch, I am happy I believe it is a good product and the wristband is the same except I have a much stronger reaction to wearables than I do to cell phones, Kathy that I think it’s probably I agree. But then I pasted the link into the chat for anyone who’s interested in that that is our newest product. And it’s made with the same material as our neck gator. It’s a great material. It’s 90% Silver 10% spandex. And it’s it’s it’s designed to make it safer to wear tech like a smartwatch like an Apple Watch. Or a Fitbit. Okay. Did I feel like there was something else I was gonna say but I don’t remember I got I got really on a rant there about smartwatches. But I really feel strongly about this wearable stuff. Because again, there and I’m just going to reiterate this, there is no way to use wearables more safely. And there in few I mean with very few exceptions. Shielding is not going to be possible like the smartwatch wristband okay, we came up with a solution for that. But with air pods shielding is impossible with Facebook with the Ray Ban stories from Facebook shielding is impossible within a growing number of these wearables shielding is impossible. And and even if shielding is possible, like with the wristband, it’ll block the biometric function. So it’ll actually block the ability to use the device in the way that certain people want to use it. And so it’s I feel especially If you have children, do not let them start wearing wearables, they’re going to be doing it their whole lives, if you if they start now, and I am not a Luddite I, like I’ve said it before you, I have a 20 year career in software development, I never go around telling people not to use cell phones, and not to use Wi Fi, I tell them to use it less and to use it more safely. But I never seen don’t do it. But air pods were really the first one where I’m like, No, don’t do it, there’s that bad is there, they’re perfectly good alternatives that are way safer. And increasingly, with wearables, I’m feeling the same way. Just don’t get into that habit, those those are the when you’re wearing it right up against your body, you are getting the maximum possible dose of radiation that that thing has to emit. And even if it is, you know, quote, unquote, a low dose, remember, A, there are going to be studies that I could point you to that show health effects at those doses, because health effects are demonstrated at really, really low doses. But be and more importantly, this stuff is all additive. Even if it’s a low dose, it’s a low dose, in addition to what you’re already getting from your cell phone, and your housemates or partner’s cell phones, and your Wi Fi and your Wi Fi devices and the nearby cell. It’s more and each new one you bring into your life is going to be even more. And so I but I said I stopped ranting and then I went off on further on the rent. Anonymous asks, and I don’t have an answer to this one. Have you seen any correlation between EMF and sleep disruption leading to bladder control issues at night?
Cathy Cooke 1:01:42
Yeah, well, I haven’t I have seen this anecdotally. I’m not I haven’t seen the research, but I definitely have seen this among clients. And and, you know, once we mitigate their environment, we see I have seen the problem diminish? Of course, there’s many reasons why this may happen for someone. But yeah, you know, I’ve seen enough cases where it is resolved when we’ve mitigated the environment that I think it’s definitely a contributing factor for a lot of people.
R Blank 1:02:16
So what would you suggest for anonymous to? So if EMF could be a cause?
Cathy Cooke 1:02:23
I mean, you know, the ultimate get your home inspected by a building biologist and do the recommendations that they tell you to do. Okay, really, I mean, and then, you know, until that can happen, um, move the bed away from the wall, because your levels, your electric fields are always high right next to the wall, turn off all your gadgets at night, unplug anything you can, you know, I mean before, that’s what you can do right now without before you get an assessment done on your house, which may uncover other things. But for a minimum, I would, I would do those things.
R Blank 1:03:04
Cool. And I’m going to paste the link here into the chat pod of Kathy, this was 13 months ago, believe it or not, but your webinar on slashing bedroom EMF. And that was a great one that was actually one of our probably one of our most popular webinars we’ve ever run, because it’s such a great topic. And that is a that is a great place to start, as that webinar covers, and we talk about elsewhere. You know, you’re going to be exposed to EMF and a lot of places the and so where do you want to focus your mitigation efforts, really, the first place to focus is the bedroom because you spend so much time there. And it’s a place where you need to not only spend time, but that time is spent rejuvenating and healing and preparing for the next day. And so that is why you really want to focus on the bedroom. And that webinar talks about the best ways to start. Thank you for the question. Okay, so we have a question here, Kathy, from Fe and it is about Havana syndrome and targeted individuals. The reason I’m going to so she asked Do you have any suggestions on anything where EMF items that can counteract these attacks? Now the reason I’m bringing this up? Well I’m going to start the answer and then I’m going to hand it off to you. If you really believe that that is happening to you, the best thing to do is to get a meter and to start when you’re experiencing these symptoms, take measurements and see what the levels are and if they really are elevated and if so what they are that is the number one thing I would suggest. That said I believe that a growing number of people are actually are beginning to recognize that they are you EMF sensitive or have a condition that’s often referred to as EHS or electro hypersensitive hypersensitivity. And because EHS is so poorly understood, and other topics like Havana syndrome are in the media much more frequently, people who are starting to recognize that they are EHS but don’t realize that they are EHS are attributing these symptoms to other sources. And so, Kathy, do you have experience interacting with your clients with questions like this? And if someone’s just beginning to realize that they might be EHS, what do you advise?
Cathy Cooke 1:05:45
Um, yes, yes, I have many clients in this situation. And it can be very challenging for many reasons. Um, so yes, I agree with you getting a meter. Um, if, if this is a directed weapon, those frequencies may not be within the range of my meter. So identifying something like this is extremely difficult. But I will say of my clients who are experiencing a similar thing, it’s all about shielding. And that could be both clothing seems to help them quite a bit the shield of clothing, as well as you know, how we would shield a house from cell phones, or I’m sorry, cell towers or something like that, which is a using a bed canopy, that’s a great start, I’m not a fan of painting the entire house for various reasons, it can be done, but it’s very, very difficult and it’s very difficult to do correctly and it can make your situation much worse. So I like the canopy for the reason that it can be undone for some reason, or you can move with it or you’re not, you know, increasing your dirty electricity or things like that. Um, but a lot of my clients that are experiencing this, the the clothing can be quite helpful. And then doing things like aluminum windows screen on the windows and things like that to help shield the home plus the canopy, things like that.
R Blank 1:07:32
Thank you, Kelly. And I,
Cathy Cooke 1:07:33
that’s a tough one.
R Blank 1:07:34
Sorry, I I pasted a few additional links in the pot in the chat pod. So there’s an interview I did with Lloyd Berle earlier this year about VHS and Wi Fi allergies. I pasted the link to your article Kathy about whole home shielding. And I also pasted about the canopies. Okay, so let’s see.
Okay, so this person is asking for data to help convince people about the health effects. So, you know, can you provide a current list of the best and this is one of the pre submitted questions, the best non sponsored studies of the data showing that EMF from any source, like a cell tower within 60 feet of a high school gym emits radiation and is hazardous to our health. Where, where would where would you point someone with that question?
Cathy Cooke 1:08:35
So I’m sorry, I, my I think my phone or my computer, lost it sound for a minute. Can you just repeat it
R Blank 1:08:42
real quick? Oh, so a current list of the best non sponsored studies now showing that EMF from a source like a cell tower within 60 feet of a high school gym emits EMF and is hazardous to our health?
Cathy Cooke 1:08:53
Yeah, well, the sites the scientific sites that I go to most often include physicians for safe technology. That’s an excellent one. Joe Moskovitz has a website is it lower? Now I’m gonna I’m not gonna remember it off my head, but I’ll find it safer. EMR safe EMR safer. EMR. EMR. I think if EMR should, that’s a that’s an excellent website that just has a plethora of research on there. I really like some of the information on physicians receive technology. There’s a lot of great websites out there that have had to have a significant amount of research. I mean, in fact, in many of the blog posts on shields your body have a lot of links to really sound scientific research. So I would look at that too. I mean, yeah, you this is definitely out there. But I really appreciate that you said you know, non industry funded because that’s the key. It is independent research that’s going to show us, you know, the, the actual science rather than the industry funded, which is heavily biased, of course,
R Blank 1:10:11
yeah, and sort of that. And to that, I would add the bio initiative report, which is a bio initiative.org. That is a survey of 1000s of studies from around the world. That was published, I think, in 2007, but then also updated in 2012. And they posted their conclusions, and that, oh, I don’t know what, uh, my computer is acting very strange. I apologize to everyone if there’s interruptions in my voice or screen sharing. And that is actually the basis for the data that we have. I don’t seem to be able to type anymore. In the the swipey health effects app, which Arthur I can type again, which is there. So this is the the EMF health effects app, which is on my website, at shield your body comm slash FX. And there you can actually search through, it’s about 1000 Different studies all from the covered by the Bioinitiative Report by a specific meter reading. So you can take a reading with a meter that you could like a trifield, or a cornet and enter the value into this app and see all of the studies of the of the 1000 that we’ve parsed so far from the Bioinitiative Report that are at or below that level. So those are a few really great resources. Thank you, Kathy. Let’s see back to Okay, how much will the neck scarf, I guess that is the or headband scarf protect the brain from EMF exposure. So if you’re talking about my products, I assume you’re talking about the neck gator and the bandana. Those provide so we have the lab data up there. real life data will be approximate to the lab data. But here’s so those provide very good, those are very good. Those are. One is made the Necator is made with 90% Silver, and the bandana is made with 35% Silver Sorry, I was trying to figure that out. So those are both very high silver content, both fantastic shielding, protective ability, the issue with those with any EMF apparel, and Kathy, maybe you could speak to this, then maybe this is how we should answer that is they only cover the they only protect the part of the body that they cover. And so in practice, you know, you’re not going to walk around with an EMF hazmat suit. It at least not most of the time. So you can only actually get the protection from from, from actually covering your body. They don’t they don’t they don’t project some kind of protective field. They’re just a shield just like a hat helps protect you against the sun. These shielding products help protect you against EMF. So Kathy, if someone actually if a client of yours asked you how much you know, the neck gator actually protected a person, how would you how would you go about answering that?
Cathy Cooke 1:13:26
Well, I’m just like you said it’s, it’s it’s gonna protect that individual area, you know, so that your thyroid is highly sensitive to EMF. So I think it’s for anybody that has thyroid issues, I think it’s excellent, or to prevent thyroid issues. That’s an extremely sensitive part of your body and you know, the thyroid is heavily dependent on iodine. So we we certainly do not want to irradiate our thyroid thyroids. Um, and, you know, a lot of this really comes down to what makes the person feel better. So I know people that you know, they were they can wear a cap or a hat that’s got shielding in it and they don’t notice anything but other people can’t do be without it. So um, it kind of comes down to what helps you the best, you know, is it a t shirt? Is it a cap? Is it the gator? Is it all of them? I think every little bit helps. And so you know, I’m I’m specifically a big fan of the Gator again, because our thyroids are so sensitive. And when you negatively impact your thyroid, you impact the entire endocrine system. So nobody wants that. Um, so yeah, I think every little bit helps and so as much as you can do is, you know, is good.
R Blank 1:14:53
Thank you. So another question submitted in advance. a loved one has type one diabetes, it’s the kind that requires constant insulin infusion to stay alive.
Cathy Cooke 1:15:02
I answered that one when you were Oh, you did?
R Blank 1:15:06
Okay. I’m sorry. Sorry. What? No
Cathy Cooke 1:15:08
worries. I thought I got rid of it. So
R Blank 1:15:12
yeah. No problem. Okay, so maybe, unless, Oh, someone actually asked. So I know how I would answer this one, Kathy, but I’m gonna just let you handle it. So Lisa asks, What do you know about Harmonizers? Or, or similar products from Germany that you can wear on your wrist? And the in the question she asked about a specific brand, but I think it’s probably best just to avoid specific brands and your answer, Kathy, and just talk about, you know, this, your opinion of this type of product?
Cathy Cooke 1:15:48
Yeah, well, um, this is probably the question that I get asked more often than anything else, because everybody wants a device, that’s just gonna calm everything down at like I do, that would be great. Um, I will say that I do have clients that have used some of these devices, and have felt a noticeable benefit. Um, I would say that most my most sensitive clients have not had any improvement with the Harmonizers. But occasionally, someone does, um, I think it’s, it’s really, it’s just kind of a buyer beware situation, if you want to spend the money on it and see how you do, you know, go for it. But there’s there is not a specific device that we know of today that we have been able to scientifically verify, is helping. And in some cases, among very sensitive people, we have found that some of these devices make them worse. So I do believe that they’re doing something. Some of them we, you know, we my colleagues and I have had, we’ve had them, we’ve busted them open, and we’re like, there’s nothing here. So some of them are a scam. Some of them do have technology behind them, of course, is proprietary. But we know this, because they can make very sensitive people react very aggressively. So you know, so for some people, they may make you feel worse. And I’ve seen this a lot. And then there’s a you know, a small amount of the time, some people are like, I got this thing, this harmonizer. And I feel a million times better. In which case, that’s great. But I have also seen them wear off over time. So somebody gets a device, they feel better initially, but then they begin to feel worse. And even to the point where some people’s sensitivities seem to get worse after that, and we’re not entirely sure why. But it may be that the body’s kind of tricked, you know, like, oh, I have this harmonizer thing, and then it it, I don’t know, I think there may be kind of a negative feedback loop happening where their body stops trying to mitigate it, because they’re relying on an external source to do that for them. So this is a really complicated, complicated field that we just don’t have enough research about yet. And so some people say, Hey, if you want to try it out, go for it if you want to spend your money, but just be aware that there is a small amount of people that it seems like it can actually make them feel worse in the long run. So it’s unfortunate, I don’t have a great answer for you. Um, but, you know,
R Blank 1:18:37
I think that was a good answer. Okay. I mean, I think it’s unfortunate that there’s no simple solution here for the problem. We’re all we’re all focused on. But I think your answer was was really good. So thank you. And Lisa, if you’re I didn’t check if you’re still on the webinar, but I did paste the link to a video, which is my 11 minute answer to your question. So if you get a chance, you can click on that link either now or later and bookmark it and watch it. So thank you. So with that, that clears out the live questions. There were a couple of others asked in advance. But I think Kathy, you’ve been very generous with your time so far. So I’m just going to remind everyone one last time that we have the the 20% sale for all of you here in attendance today. Just enter the code low tech 20 at checkout that works on every product, as I mentioned, it also works on Kathy’s consulting time. If you book by midnight tonight after that this coupon is expired. With that. I believe that is going to be our last webinar of the year. So you know I really hope you put Kathy’s lessons to use over these holiday season regardless I want to wish all of you a very happy, healthy, safe and sane and calm and relaxing holiday season. I think it’s pretty obvious all of us have earned at least that. So from the entire sci fi community. I wish you all very happy holidays. And Kathy, once again, thank you so much for your time today and for sharing this knowledge with everybody.
Cathy Cooke 1:20:30
Yep, my pleasure. Really happy that everybody got on the call and look for my email with your printed guide in a couple days.
R Blank 1:20:39
Excellent. Thank you, everyone. Have a great evening.