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Webinar: Laptops Aren’t for Laps – and What You Should Do Instead

Here is the archive recording and transcript of the SYB Webinar from July 13, 2023, hosted by SYB CEO R Blank on the health risks of laptops, and what you can do about them.

Webinar Recording

Webinar Transcript

R Blank 0:00
Glad I remembered that. Okay, so welcome everybody, to today’s SYP webinar laptops aren’t collapse and what you should do instead, I appreciate you all taking the time out of your day to, to come to and join us in this SNMP webinar. I’m going the way this is going to work today, which is what we started doing this year. And it seems to be working really well is I am here live. The main part of the presentation is, is pre recorded. And that is so that I can attend more effectively to running the room and to your chat. So you can during the presentation you can chat at me, let me know if there’s any technical problems or anything else like that. If you have any actual questions about the content about about laptops, or EMF or anything like that, I’m going to ask you to please put those in the q&a pod not into the chat pod. So that’s a separate pod. And that’s what I’ll come to at the end when it’s time for q&a. So with that, we will get started in one second that is.

R Blank 1:27
Okay, welcome, everyone to today’s webinar, laptops aren’t for labs, and what you should do instead, briefly about myself, my name is R blank. I’m the CEO of s YB, as well as the host of the healthier tech podcast, formerly taught on the faculty of the engineering school at the University of Southern California. And before that, helped write the book overpowered along with my father, Dr. Martin Blanc, about the science of EMF health effects. And this fall is a 20 year career in software engineering. So I’m going to start with something called TL Dr. Now, if you don’t know TLDR stands for too long, didn’t read. And so if you want to cut to the chase of this webinar, it is this, do not use your laptop in your lap, just don’t. Now, if you want to understand why this is so important, and why these specific changes in particular are so important. That’s what we’re going to talk about now. As we say in the name, Sy B is all about helping you shield your body from EMF radiation. And when it comes to shielding your body from EMF, it’s all about reducing your exposure. Now there are two ways to do that. The first is to minimize your use. And the second is to maximize the distance between your body and your tech when you do use it. And for either tactic to have maximal impact, you first need to be aware of the biggest sources of EMF in your life that you can control. And that’s an important point, because we’re all surrounded by EMF from more and more sources every day. Some of these are not in our control, or at least not in our immediate control, like cell towers, as you see in this photo, it’s good to be aware of them. But we shouldn’t stress about them too much on a day to day basis, because there’s not much we can do about them, at least in the short and immediate term. So instead, you want to focus on the things that are under your control. And the good news is that how we manage the tech that’s closest to us can matter the most in terms of our health. In other words, even though a lot of sources of EMF are out of our control. Controlling the stuff that we can control can have a massive impact on our exposure. minimizing your use of EMF technology is the absolute best way to protect yourself from EMF, because then there’s no exposure in the first place. And minimizing use means just like it sounds, using your EMF emitting tech less, while minimizing use is the best protection against EMF, you can only do so much of it. And that’s because we all use and rely on tech for almost everything from doing our jobs, to staying in touch with friends and family to entertainment. So you can reduce your usage. But to participate in modern society, you’re going to have some exposure from your tech, it’s unavoidable. And that’s where maximizing distance comes in. And what I mean by maximizing distance is to create as much space between you and your EMF tech as possible. Why does this matter so much? Because the power of EMF diminishes exponentially with distance, double the distance between you and the source of the EMF and you cut the power of your exposure by 75%. So each additional inch even millimeter of distance that you put between yourself and your sources of EMF will have a big impact on your exposure. Literally every inch matters when it comes to your EMF fix Moser. Now I spend a lot of time talking about cell phones. Because given the nature of the technology and how we use it, cell phones tend to be a massive source of people’s EMF radiation. But there’s another source that can be a big one in our lives too. And that is laptops, especially if you use them in your labs. Why is that? Well, first laptops emit the same type of EMF radiation as cell phones, radio frequency, or RF is a type of EMF that comes from wireless communication. Any device that communicates wirelessly emits RF radiation. Our laptops are actually multiple sources of RF radiation. Depending on what features are built into your laptop and which ones are enabled. The Wi Fi and Bluetooth connections are two very common sources of RF from your laptop. And some companies like Dell are releasing 5g laptops, which means they will have cell phone modems emitting 5g energy, which will emit even more RF on top of Wi Fi and Bluetooth. Now, laptops can emit less RF radiation than a cell phone with an active cell connection. But this is not always true. It depends on the specific details of the laptop and the phone you are comparing and what you are doing with them. And to know you really need to learn how to test. So for example, when you’re streaming an HD movie on Netflix, your laptop emits a lot more RF radiation than when you’re just checking email. So Rf is one source. Next, we have elf or extremely low frequency. Elf comes from your laptop’s power source, it’s emitted by any device that runs on power. The inner machinery of your laptop like your computer processor, emits elf simply by operating. And your laptop emits a lot more elf when it is plugged in charging and running off of AC power. So in general, laptops emit much more elf than a cell phone. In addition, laptops emit heat, which is also a damaging force, heat causes something called the thermal effect. See, everyone knows and recognizes that getting burned is bad for you. Not only does it hurt, and take time to heal, but it actually kills your cells and damages your DNA. And you don’t even need to get burned. This damage occurs when your body is heated, even if it doesn’t burn you. So even if something doesn’t emit enough heat to burn you, it can still do a lot of damage to your cells. And that damage can turn into disease like cancer. And because of all of the machinery inside, laptops emit much more heat than a cell phone. So when comparing laptops to cell phones in terms of their emissions, laptops can emit either less or more RF than a cell phone. It depends on what each device is doing. But they almost always a bit more elf, and much more heat. So laptops are a bigger source of harmful emissions than your phone. And this means that all of the studies linking cell phone radiation to negative health effects also apply to laptops. Both RF and ELF forms of EMF have been shown to cause numerous negative health effects. And the World Health Organization was both types his class to be carcinogens. Excessive heat light from the bottom of a laptop is also a cause of this type of health damage. And as we just seen, laptops and cell phones emit the same harmful types of radiation. So if you’re concerned about your cell phones, radiation emissions, you should definitely have the same concerns about your laptop. These negative health effects include immediate term conditions like fatigue and insomnia, as well as longer term and more significant health risks ranging from infertility to cancer. There are too many health risks linked to EMF to cover comprehensively here, but I do want to cover some of them to give you an idea of the scope. As many of you probably know, and as I’ve talked and written a lot about, there are numerous studies linking cell phone use to the formation of various types of cancer from glioblastomas to thyroid, even colorectal cancer. When it comes to cancer and laptops, specifically, the body of science is not yet substantial. But again, we can make some educated guesses. After all, your laptop emits the same type of radiation that cell phones do. So it makes sense that the health risks are similar. But again, it’s not just the EMF, it’s also the heat, laptops can get hot, really, really hot. We have all felt it. And that heat is more than just uncomfortable. It’s a real health risk. In fact, all EMF regulations and safety limits in the United States and much of the world are based around this thermal effect. In other words, wireless devices like cell phones and laptops are supposed to be regulated so they do not emit so much EMF that they heat your body. But that’s pointless if just the heat Sources heating your body. These safety limits which are vastly inadequate, but at least they exist. They exist because everyone acknowledges that when human tissue is heated DNA damage occurs, the type of damage that leads to cancer. So when your laptop gets too hot, and it’s right up against your body, that’s a risk to your health. The health risk is undisputed, there’s absolutely no debate whether this is a risk it is.

R Blank 10:29
Next, we move on to fertility and there is a large and continually growing body of science linking EMF exposure to male infertility and sub fertility. At this point, this is really well established science. While there’s a ton of this about cell phones, there’s also a growing body of science about infertility and Wi Fi radiation in particular. In 120 12 study, Reacher’s researchers found that just four hours of exposure to Wi Fi radiation from a laptop led to decreased sperm motility, which is a key indicator of sperm health, and a notable increase in the DNA fragmentation of sperm. Now, that’s just after four hours. And of note, the researchers highlighted the fact that this damage occurred at non thermal levels, that is a levels of EMF that were insufficient to actually heat your tissue, and so it was the EMF, not the heat that caused this damage. A separate 2018 study from Japan also found that Wi Fi radiation kills sperm. In this case, the researcher divided subjects into three groups. In one group sperm was exposed to EMF from a pocket Wi Fi router, and another group sperm samples were exposed to EMF, but they had a protection shield. And the third group was a control group with none of this exposure. After just two hours, the group exposed to Wi Fi radiation had half the quantity of viable sperm as the group with no exposure. And the effect got stronger over time, meaning the longer the subjects were exposed to the Wi Fi radiation, the greater the damage to their sperm. Now that’s male fertility. Switching over to female fertility, right. female reproductive cells, also known as eggs are very different for male reproductive cells, which we’ve been addressing as sperm. One way in which they are different is that eggs are protected, they’re more protected deep inside each woman’s body, and the body provides natural shielding against EMF, where a sperm resides outside the body in the testicles. This means that sperm is much more vulnerable to EMF radiation than our eggs. Now, women’s eggs may be more protected from radiation. But that doesn’t mean cell phone radiation exposure is safe for women and their reproductive systems. In 2014, researchers in one study demonstrated that increased stress can lead to a significant decline in women’s fertility and their ability to become pregnant. Women with the highest levels of alpha amylase, which is an indicator of stress had a 29% reduced chance of conceiving. Another study from 2009 revealed that people living within 100 meters of a cell phone tower had notably higher levels of this alpha amylase in their bodies. And a 2017 study found that mobile phone exposure impairs female the female reproductive system by increasing oxidative and nitrosative stress. So even though women’s eggs are better protected the male sperm, there are clear indications that EMF exposure negatively harms female fertility and reproduction. But it’s not just fertility. Another area of concern is pregnancy. There are many studies linking EMF exposure from cell phones to health outcomes of concern to pregnant women, namely miscarriage and birth defects. In 120 12, study researcher, researchers found that pregnant women and their fetuses can be exposed to more EMF radiation from a laptop than from high voltage power lines. Right? Let me just repeat that. Researchers found that pregnant women and their fetuses can be exposed to more radiation from a laptop than from high voltage power lines. And these fields can induce currents three to four times higher than safety limits in the fetus and two to five times higher than safety limits for the pregnant mother. Another study published in 2017 found that women who had high levels of EMF exposure had a 2.72 greater risk of miscarriage. So now I talked about miscarriage and that is a horrible and dramatic outcome but I also mentioned birth defects. And there is a large and growing body of research demonstrating that fetuses are quite vulnerable to damage from EMF exposure in utero For instance, a 2008 study from UCLA found that prenatal EMF exposure doubled the incidence of behavioral problems by age seven, and 2012. The Bioinitiative Report concluded that fetal and early childhood exposures to cellphone radiation and wireless technologies in general may be a risk factor for hyperactivity, learning disorders and behavioral problems in school. And a 2011 study from Kaiser Permanente found that the more EMF a fetus was exposed to in utero, the greater the chance that the baby developed asthma by age 13. So there are, as I say, a large and growing body of science demonstrating links between EMF exposure in utero and health defects, health effects, emerging later in life. And finally, I want to touch on erectile dysfunction commonly known as EDI, and it’s one of the most common sexual disorders that affects millions of men worldwide. A 2018 survey says that five to 10% of men under 40 have suffered from EDI at least once in their lifetime. And experts predict that the number of men who have erectile dysfunction will reach 322 million by 2025. Now there is an increasing amount of data demonstrating that EMF plays a significant role in this number. Even though EMF may not directly lead to Ed, it can create the health conditions that induce it. How? Well science has shown that EMF decreases your testosterone levels. EMF creates sleep disorders and sleep disruption. EMF builds mental stress and anxiety. EMF induces oxidative stress and EMF interferes with your reproductive endocrine system. And all of these are contributing factors to erectile dysfunction. So I know I just covered a lot of different health effects. To recap, we discussed cancer, infertility, pregnancy, birth defects, and erectile dysfunction. These are just a handful of some of the concerning effects linked to laptop and Wi Fi radiation exposure. As I mentioned, laptops emit the same type of EMF radiation as cell phones, and cell phone radiation has been shown to cause numerous negative health effects, many of which I write about on my website. So laptops present the same wide range of risks cell phones, I just covered some of the big ones here. But for more on the science of the health effects of EMF, check out the URL on your screen, which is shield your body.com/emf-health-effects. Now remember, children are more vulnerable. I talked about this at greater length in other webinars and articles about the health risks for children and EMF. So if you are interested in learning more, I recommend you check that out on my website that shield your body.com/emf-children. But briefly, because of their size and physiology, EMF harms children more than adults. And because of their age, they have much longer to live with the impacts of these exposures. And because of the direction of society, unfortunately, these children will have greater exposures at every stage of their lives than we have had. I highlight this here because so many children use laptops for their education. And that’s why it’s even more important to protect children from these health risks because they are more vulnerable to damage. So what can you do to reduce the health risks from laptops. One thing is to use a wired connection. Wi Fi is a big source of EMF emissions from your laptop. So when possible, use an Ethernet connection for internet access. Even if your laptop doesn’t have an Ethernet port, you can buy an adapter like you see here in this photo. So you can use Ethernet in your USB port. And if you’re interested in learning about how to use swap out Wi Fi for Ethernet, in your home, in your office, wherever you are, we actually have a course available on the syB website that shows you all the options for how to hardwire your laptop, all your devices and your entire home. That’s the How to hardwire your Internet course. Another thing you should do is disable the wireless connections when you are not using them. I have a bunch of healthy living tips on my website about Airplane Mode on phones. The same holds true for your laptop. So for example, if you’re using an Ethernet connection for your internet, disable your laptop’s Wi Fi to stop it from emitting Wi Fi EMF. Or if you’re just working locally on your computer and not using the internet, like if you’re writing a paper or something. Also make sure to turn off the Wi Fi By no point in keeping it on when you’re not using it. Similarly, if you’re not using any Bluetooth devices, make sure the Bluetooth is disabled. Remember, your laptop will still emit elf radiation, even when the Wi Fi and Bluetooth are turned off. But these options are in your control and do make a difference. Use them to reduce your exposure.

R Blank 20:22
Another thing you can do is to make sure to unplug your laptop’s power cord when you’re working on it. Now, of course, this isn’t always an option. Depending on your battery, if your battery’s low, you’ll need to be plugged in. But if you have enough battery than unplug your laptop, your laptop will then omit much less elf radiation. So those are the three actionable tips to make it safer to use your laptop, use a wired connection, disable the wireless Wi Fi and Bluetooth connections and unplug your power cord. And this brings me to the number one thing you can do to use your laptop more safely. Don’t use it in your lap, what should you do instead, put it on a desk or a table. This is the number one thing you can do to make it safer to use your laptop. And it makes a huge difference because as I said earlier in the webinar, when it comes to EMF distance matters distances your friend every inch matters. So just as you shouldn’t use your cell phone against your head, or carried in your pocket or bra. The same applies for using laptops, the further away you can keep your laptop when in use, the better. And to help you get it even further away, you can use an external keyboard and mouse both of which are available as wired options that plug into your USB C or USB or USBC. Now to be clear, it’s not just me that says not to use your laptop in your lap. And it’s not just health experts. It’s also companies like Dell, one of the largest laptop manufacturers in the world. Here is a direct quote from a Dell laptop Manual. To avoid the possibility of exceeding the FCC radiofrequency exposure limits, you should keep a distance of at least 20 centimeters between you or any other person in the vicinity and the antenna that is built into the laptop, right that is eight inches, almost eight inches. It’s just shy, it’s a big distance. And that is the distance that Dell is telling you to keep at least away in order to stay under radiation regulations. So yeah, even manufacturers like Dell tell you not to use your laptop in your lap. Even though they still literally call them laptops, it’s in the manual. Now there are some times when you need or want to use your laptop in your lap. For instance, if you’re working on your laptop while you’re traveling, or commuting on the bus or subway, or if you prefer writing while curled up on your couch. In fact, that’s even more common now as many more of us are working at home or on the road or seeking the nomad lifestyle. And we end up working in places that maybe aren’t set up as workspaces like a sofa. And it’s for situations like these that I make the sob laptop pad. Now to be clear, you should not use your laptop in your lap. That is what you should avoid in order to have the least amount of this type of exposure. But for those occasions when you do use your laptop in your lap, my laptop pad makes it safer. Just place your laptop on top of the sob laptop pad to deflect your laptops, EMF radiation and heat emissions away from your body and reproductive organs. The s YB laptop pad provides outstanding shielding. It’s slim and portable. It slips right into your bag. It’s easy to use at home or carry anywhere you go. It comes in three sizes to fit almost any laptop and tablet in the world. And like with all of my products that comes with free shipping on orders over $100 a lifetime warranty and 30 day returns it’s a risk free decision. So if you or anyone in your family uses your laptop in your lap or on your stomach or anywhere in your body, you should get my s YB laptop pad

R Blank 24:20
Okay, we’re back now live. So I’m going to answer questions. They’ve come into the q&a pod thank you for that if anyone else has questions, you can still type them in. But as as promised, I have an offer for oh wait, I’m not sharing my screen am i Where did zoom go? What do you think I have a little worse experience with this by this point. As promised, as with all my webinars, I am offering special discount to those of you who are attending live. So this, this discount applies for you live in the room, it is valid through midnight tonight Pacific time. So we’re talking about 10 hours. And that’s 35% off the laptop pad. And to do that, just go to the URL on the screen here, and then enter pad now at checkout. And again, this discount expires at midnight, Pacific time tonight. So if you’re watching this as a replay, which I know a lot of you will be doing tomorrow, that’s Friday, this code will will not work. Now, I do in addition to that discount, I have another announcement for those of you. As you may have noticed, in some of the pictures that I just showed you, including this one, we now have a brand new version of the swipey laptop pad. If you go to our site, this is listed a second generation, it is sleek, it features elegant stitching to contrast against the vegan leather. It is the second generation and even best of all it is it is half the weight of the first generation pad. So how did we do that? Well, because the new version uses our laboratory tested safer body shielding material, which weighs a lot less than the metallic alloy shielding we used in the first generation. And you can see the test results live on the website. And you can see from those results, the shielding is just as effective for both radiofrequency that’s the wireless radiation, as well as low frequency, which is like I was talking about in the video, the power line, the stuff that comes from the power sources in your computer. So you can see these results for yourself at shield your body.com/test. So that’s how we got the same powerful shielding with half the weight. And it also know matches our second generation 5g Phone shield as well which you can you can see here in this photograph. So I’m gonna get to q&a. But just one final reminder that this 35% off for those of you who come to webinars or are following me the sales on the mailing list, you’ll you’ll know that 35% off is a is a big discount. Normally, in these webinars we offer 20 or 25%. But today, as part on top of our back to school sale, I’m offering 35% off for the S YB laptop. And this applies both to first generation and second generation. So you can you can have your your pick. So with that, give me one second to put that back up here on the screen. And we will get to some Q and A and Oh good. More questions have come in Fantastic. So am I am I sure? I just want to make sure I am sharing screen. Yeah. I’m going to stop just to make sure and then sure again. Oh, thank you, Michael. There we go. Okay, excellent. So question PC vs. Mac’s versus build your own computers in terms of EMF elf RF slash question mark. So the the elf and the RF though. So elf is extremely low frequency. RF is radiofrequency the elf comes from the power supply. The RF comes from things like Wi Fi and Bluetooth. So those are the two types of EMF. And then of course you have heat in terms of build your own. And maybe I mean, I used to be in computers. I don’t remember a lot of people building their own laptops so much. When i The people I knew who did that sort of thing. We’re building desktops. But I get the broad strokes of the question, which is what are the differences between these EMF and heat emissions between different brands and versions of computers? And the answer that I have, and I know it’s one that you’re going to find slightly disappointing is I believe that what was the big impact is what you do with the machine and how you use it. So if you’re just doing email, for instance, as you know, it’ll be much lower emissions than if you’re doing video rendering or streaming it live out online or doing a gaming with a lot of data transfer. So that if you’re working the processor hard if you’re working the bandwidth, hard if you’re using Wi Fi, or if you’re using Ethernet, right, these are the things in terms of what you’re doing on the machine that is going to have a much bigger impact on the emissions than than the brand similarly, if you’re using the closer you’re using it versus the further you’re using it, that’s going to have a big impact on your exposure more than the brand. So it’s what you’re doing on the machine and how you’re using it, that’s going to make the biggest impact I’m not aware of. So for instance, Consumer Reports does lie, highest EMF phones and lowest EMF phones. But I My understanding is that’s based on manufacturer representations rather than their own testing. And I just don’t trust manufacturer representations about EMF emissions. So and I haven’t heard anyone in the EMF community recommending different models of laptops over others. So again, I would say it’s what you’re doing on the machine has a really big impact. And then how you’re using it, which is the part you can actually control has a really big impact. And that’s where I’d focus my efforts. So thank you for that question. Someone comments? Not able to see everybody’s chat, not feeling the normal community aspect? Okay. Well, I don’t know why that setting changed. But I will look into it and make sure that the next webinar doesn’t have that. So thank you for the feedback. Okay, there’s a question about Tesla, I’m gonna come back to that. I do want to answer it. But I want to get to some of the computer specific questions. So someone asked him Do for buying a new computer for my Euro travels? Need something with a keyboard and charger that will work while I go about the continent continent there? Yeah, so again, this is a question about EMF healthier, specific makes and models. I don’t know that. And once again, I think it really comes down to how you’re using it. So use it further away. If you have to use it, for instance, on your lap, unplug it, if you can be make sure it’s not charging. Because when it’s charging, you have just a lot more power running into into the device. And, and the elf emissions are usually much higher. So again, uh, you know, if I, if I knew which laptops were safer, I would certainly tell you, I don’t think anyone really knows that answer. I certainly haven’t heard of that. Were in the laptop is the antenna? That’s a really good question. I’m not sure if it depends, it probably depends on the model in the computers that I’ve had, it’s been in the monitor actually. But the way you can tell about how that is in your laptop, would be to test so getting a good quality meter. And, and holding it to different parts of your laptop, making sure for instance, that, you know, try loading up Netflix or Hulu or something. So you’re streaming in a bunch of data, so you know that the Wi Fi card is being active. And then and then measure where the emissions are highest. I have those of you here in the room tonight, I have that I’m going to put this into chat. So if you’re watching this. So if you’re watching the this in the replay, go to shield your body.com/test. If you’re here in the room live, you can go to the link I just put into the chat and get the ebook, the free guide that I have here, which is how to test EMF for yourself. And it has step by steps and meter rec specific meter recommendations to and explanations of the different types and terms and units and so forth. Okay, thank you for that question. Let, will these recommendations work for tablets also? Yes. I’m trying to think through what I said. And so we have distance not using them when they’re charging using airplane mode. External keyboards are also for most types of tablets, they’re an option. So yeah, and and

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R Blank 34:19
the laptop actually comes in a tablet size. So even if you were looking for that type of protection on your tablet, the laptop pad is available on that size as well. But all of the other precautions I’ve listed still apply. Tablets tend to be a lot less hot than than laptops. So the heat risk is coming commensurately lower. But even so creating that distance will will help with all of the the emission exposures that you have. What kind of noise cancelling headphones do you recommend? Oh, so for hosting webinars, or who travel on planes and stuff, that’s a good question. I, I don’t really worry too much about noise cancelling headphones, because I try to be in a really quiet place. But so little ones, I don’t know, if you want to email customer support, and say that, I’d like to, I’ll put in some time to figure out figure that out. Because when I travel, I don’t have them next to me, they’re in the other room. When I travel, I use my air tubes, my, my anti radiation, air tubes. So those are the little headsets that I use. And when I’m delivering webinars, usually I use these big headphones, which are not really great for traveling. But yeah, if you want to email Hello at shield, your body.com. And they can forward it to me and I’ll look into seeing what what good noise canceling options that are in the small size. I cover my devices with a piece of glass from an x ray room window is that useful? Huh? I don’t know. I didn’t even know that extra room windows were shielded. Um, but I mean, it makes sense that they are when I’ve, in fact, I just had to have X rays done last week. And the technician was in the room but was behind like this cubby wall. So they, but if it is shielded, it might work. Or it might not because X rays are a much higher frequency than any of the types of radiation we’re talking about. Here. They’re much higher energy. And oftentimes, the shielding will only work on a certain range of frequencies, or work most effectively. Plus, you can find things that are a lot lighter. So if you just give me a second here, this is something it’s not how we market it, really. But it’s how a lot of our customers use it, which is the poster frame liner. And you can get that in 18 by 2424 by 36. And it can be folded, it can be crumpled. It’s super lightweight. And this would work on the types of frequencies that we’re talking about here with laptops and so forth if you wanted something like that, but I don’t I don’t I’d never even thought to wonder if radiological rooms have that type of shielding built into their glass. Door does your fabric shield work if you put it in your lap while using your laptop? How about covering the front of you when watching television? So does your fabric shield work when you put it in your lap? I don’t know which this because this question was posted before I showed the poster frame liner. I don’t know exactly which fabric shield you’re talking about. But it should work. All of because all of my shielding material is based on the same technology. Different products use different materials, although more and more of them are using our Safer body, which is in the second generation of the laptop ad that I was telling you about. And it’s in the phone pouch, the pouch Deluxe, and so forth. So more and more of my products are using that. But then the poster frame liner is different. And the boxer shorts are different. And the baseball cap is different and so forth. But they all use the same basic technology, which is that the fabric is woven with sorry, hit the mic with these intersecting threads of conductive metal. And that’s what forms the barrier like a Faraday cage against the the EMF radiation. So I do know that several of my client clients customers use the baby blanket as a laptop or sorry, as a lap protector. For instance, pregnant women who are using their phone will put the baby blanket over them. So it should I don’t again, I don’t know which product you’re asking about specifically, but it should work. Now. The second question How about covering the front of you and watching television tell. Televisions today are much, much lower rates radiation than when I was growing. I don’t know your age. But then when I was growing up, and it’s because of the display technology is so fundamentally different. Now they could have as many of them now do Wi Fi and all these smart TVs and so forth. And so if that’s the case, if it’s a significant source of Wi Fi, then yes, putting fabric on your wall while you’re watching TV could could reduce your exposure. My guess is that wouldn’t be a particularly significant source of exposure but Uh, again, this is where we’re using a meter learn getting a decent meter and learning how to use it. That’s where this comes into play. And you can gauge, you know, because you could think the TV is a risk. But then it turns out in the wall behind you, there’s there’s just really poor wiring, and that ends up being a bigger risk. And so then you’d adjust your your mitigation strategy based on that information. So I would, I would definitely learn get a decent meter, learn how to use it, take the measurements, figure out where you want to be reducing your exposures and then take that approach. I have a laptop desk that is nine and a half inches tall, so raises the laptop five and a half inches away from my lap. I’m a little confused at those numbers. But anyway, let’s say it’s a race is five inches, fine. Five and a half inches away from your lap. That’s great. I mean, the further the better. But that is certainly better than having it right in your lap. Oh, I get why it’s nine and a half inches tall. But it’s five and a half inches away from your lap because it’s on like the bed and the legs are overlapping with your body? I think I understand. So yeah, every bit of distance that you can create will reduce your exposure. And it really makes a big difference. It’s not a linear relationship. It’s an exponential relationship. So five and a half inches is a lot better than on your body. But as you saw in the Dell manual, you know, for certain models of laptop, they’re recommending more than five and a half inches. But if you’re doing the five and a half inches, that’s that’s way better than using it on your body. It was a good question. No one’s ever asked me that before. Thank you. How does the pad functionally protect from the various frequencies? Do whatever emissions coming from the laptop and accessories get absorbed by the pad repelled outward or something else? Great question. Give me one second to find a particular post. Actually, I think I know where it is. So I’m going to put this into the chat. This is an answer to the question I’m doing now, which is how EMF shielding works. So the answer first off is none of my products absorb. There are EMF, some EMF absorption materials. And the way well, actually that I shouldn’t say none of my EMF shielding products absorb the hard, which is this product which removes stray radiation from from headphones. Right. So it’s an it’s an alternative to using air tube headphones. With the way this works is the stray radiation is flowing along the wire in here as a pack of dielectric gel, which effectively absorbs that stray radiation and converts it into heat. Because that’s how absorbers work. They convert EMF into heat. And they’re in general when it comes to shield shielding, because the heart that you see right here is not a shielding product. It’s a headset filtration product. But when it comes to shielding, absorption materials are just generally nowhere near as effective as shielding materials. And so the difference is a shielding material to flex, it bounces it back in the opposite direction. And of course, as it is going in that direction, it continues to diminish in power exponentially with distance. So all of my products utilize shielding in terms of how they perform at different frequencies. That is reflected in the test reports. So if you go it’s go to my site and go to testing and laboratory test results.

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And this page will load and safer body is what’s in the second generation. And if you go down, Platinum steel is what’s in the first generation. And by just clicking these links, you can download the reports and you can see how how both of these options perform at the different frequencies. And you can see they’re not identical at all frequencies, but it’s very high shielding at all of the tested frequencies. Thank you for that question. Oh, okay, so the question is the bandana? Yes, the bandana? And this is referring back to putting the fabric on your lap. Yes, the bandana would would work. It wouldn’t help absorb any of the heat or create any of the distance to reduce the heat. The way the laptop pad will just because of the materials are so I mean the bandanas it’s a thin piece of silver and silk. But in terms of the the EMF frequencies Yes, the bandana would deflect To those and would generally be big enough to cover your lap. So thank you

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on the product link while flipping through the pictures, it says triple blocking power rLf of RF, elf and heat, but no mention of EMF. Thank you for that feedback. RF and ELF are forms of EMF. So give me a second I want to see if I can find the illustration. And I see if I have it should I’m looking for an image. Oh, here we go. Found one. Okay. So this is this is an image I made from my father’s book actually, to illustrate the EMF spectrum. So everything that you’re seeing here is EMF, which means electromagnetic fields or electromagnetic radiation. In the middle is visible light. That’s like what we get from the sun. And from there on down, we have these forms that are called non ionizing. From there on up, we have ionizing and that includes UV, UV rays, X rays, and gamma rays, the information I provide and the products I make are all focused around non ionizing information. Radiation. Pardon me. So RF, RF stands for radio frequency, it’s also sometimes called microwave. And those are the types of EMF that are used for wireless communication. And then elf stands for extremely low frequency, which is like power power lines and appliances and things that run on power. So RF and ELF are the two main kinds of sources of human made EMF radiation that we are concerned about and that we are trying to mitigate and protect against. But I appreciate that feedback in terms of the way we present that information on the product page. And I will look into doing something about that. So thank you, and for giving me the opportunity to explain that. Oh, and the second part of your question, which I’ve just dismissed. So now I can’t wait, hold on. Does so did the first generation protect against EMF but this one protects against No. So they’re the same, they both protect against both elf and RF. So first generation second generation, the protection levels are almost identical, it’ll differ a little bit based on frequencies. And the key difference is, is the weight because we’re using this this new material in it that again, that we we’ve been using this material for years, just not in our laptop pads, we’ve been using it for the phone pouches, the 5g phone shields, the pouch Deluxe, the sling bag, I know I’m forgetting one. But we’ve been using this material for a long time. It’s just now we have it in our laptop at will the pad will protect radiation from going down went that just redirect and amplify going out to the sides. Well, I don’t think it would amplify so would so it does bounce that that’s totally true. And so but it’s keeping it away from the more sensitive bits of your body. That’s why the best protection is keeping this stuff as far away from your body as possible. But if you’re keeping it if you’re keeping it on, you know on on your lap, then a better option is to use a shielding product like the laptop pad. Even though that would then lead to more radiation coming up, of course, when it goes up but then also diminishes in power exponentially with distance again, that’s why keeping it on your lap is so, so risky because when you’re keeping it on your lap, there’s absolutely no distance between the source of the EMF and your body

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if I put a big couch pillow on my lap, and my laptop on top of that without a pad, if I put it big, am I protecting myself? Yeah, okay. Okay, so if I put a big couch pillow on my lap, and then my laptop on top of the pillow without a pad, am I protecting myself? The answer is yes. Because you’re creating more of that distance. Certainly you’re protecting yourself from heat because laptops don’t generally heat enough to heat at a distance. They’re heating the things that it’s touching. So just by creating any of that distance right away, you’re getting rid of the heat, and then depend Hang on how big this pillow is? I mean, some of these pillows get really big. Yes, you are, you are reducing. You say by 75%. That was an illustration, that’s if you my airplane mode phone, if if you double the distance, you’re cutting it by 75%. If, if, if you’re going from against your body to much further, like let’s say, I don’t know, six inches away, you’re probably going to be cutting your exposure by more than 75%. But you still want to create as much distance as possible. And so that that is definitely preferable to using the device in your lap. Thank you. I usually prop my elbows within inches from the front edge of the laptop, is that a problem? So it’s not close to my lap or close to elbows? Well, I would say, I mean, you know, you want to keep it as far away from any part of your body as possible. But elbows, obviously, I would say contain. They don’t contain vital organs. And so it exposure to your elbow is exposure to your body. But by keeping it further I mean, the stuff near your lap is, is really important, you know, depends. It doesn’t matter what sex or gender or whatever you are, the stuff there is really important. And there’s other stuff that’s really important, that’s also close to there. So I would say, in general, you don’t need to be as worried about exposure to your elbows as you do to vital organs. But that said, you still want to minimize your overall exposure as much as possible. And, and so but you know, there’s a limit to how much you can worry about this stuff. So if you’re keeping it as far away, as is practical for you, then then good. And you know, if you can do more than you should do more. But if you can’t then focus on other areas of remediation, like not carrying your phone in your pocket. And also, just to clarify, that would be an example where my laptop had doesn’t sound like it would, it would really help because your elbows would be on the side in front of the laptop. Thank you. Jill says if your shielding devices reflect the waves, where is it deflected, so it would basically go up, right. And so your hands would get more exposure than then they would without the laptop pad, but you’re cutting the exposure to your lap significantly. And when it goes up again, as it passes through the hands and goes further up, the the exposure diminishes in power exponentially with distance. So by the time it gets like up to here, it’s way way weaker than it would be directly under the laptop. So that is, but again, this is why I say the best protection is to keep the thing as far away. So for instance, you know, I think my courts currently long enough, you know, I’m on a laptop right now. And it’s far away from me, and I have this wired keyboard in place. I have my wired trackball in place. And the laptop itself is you know, feet away from me. And I’m not using my laptop pad. Now, I use my laptop pad really for travel. So when I’m on airplanes, when I have to sit and do work in a in a bus or an airport or train station. And and also like I said to you know, if I have to do work from an Airbnb or something, and there’s just no good setup, that’s when I use the laptop pad because in as much of my life as possible, I keep this stuff as far away from me as possible, and then use wired peripherals. So I don’t even you know, I don’t even have to be within reach of the keyboard does earthing slash grounding the body helped to reduce the effects? It can. Let me see if I can find. Give me one second. We have a lot of information on grounding. It’s, it’s what you know, there’s because there’s a lot and I don’t want to just pick one of these articles to share with you. So if you want to email text, my customer support Hello at shield your body.com with this question from the webinar, it’ll get forwarded to me and I can I can kind of compile everything for you and but or so. I’ll just say briefly earthing the body grounding the body into the earth itself is a very healthy practice in terms of undoing any type Have inflammatory damage, particularly, particularly the types of damage caused by EMF radiation. So if you can, for instance, walk barefoot, in the backyard or on a beach or in a park or anywhere, we’re not pavement, right, but Earth, and you can walk barefoot there. That’s generally healthy. Now, you want to be generally as far away from civilization as possible when you do this, not just for your mental state, but because of the way that the grid is built. And they discharge, they send current back to the power grid, through the Earth itself. So it’s possible that you live in an area with a lot of this type of ground current, and then that, that can that in those environments, grounding is suboptimal. This is why I was saying it’s, it’s a little bit of a complicated thing. I don’t generally recommend using grounding products, because of other issues, again, which I can explain in when I when I send you the follow up email. But because when you ground into the grid, there are other issues that that can be present. But I mean, it’s a great question. I walk barefoot on the beach as much as possible. So and I do, there is real science supporting how these types of activities can be very healthy for you.

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Should the laptop pad be larger than the size of the laptop are exactly the same size? Oh, right. So with all shielding, great question with and I do have an article about this, give me one second. But the quick answer is with all shielding. And I’m sorry, I’m putting the link into the chat. With all shielding, you ideally want the shielding to be as large as possible, definitely larger than the source you’re trying to shield. So with the laptop pad as an example, you’d want a laptop pad that’s bigger than your laptop. And the same is true. So if you follow this link here, you’ll see information about I believe it’s the poster frame liner and the flex shield. And it’s indications with with diagrams about why it is you you want the shielding to be bigger than the source you’re trying to shield. So thank you for that question.

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Okay, in terms of laptop charger, I’ve heard the total battery charge time lowers, the more you disconnect and reconnect to charger when it’s at the zero to 20% Charge lift threshold over and over again. So for that reason, I’ve left my charger in the laptop at my work desk and keeping 100% charge all the time. So that’s interesting I that is outside of my area of expertise. But I do have some bits of knowledge on that. Right. And a lot of this has to do with evolving battery technology, particularly lithium ion battery technology. But it is my understanding that when you keep it and it will speaking of which my laptop is unplugged, let me just make sure I have life. Yeah, I’m doing okay. So keeping it at 100% is actually what I had heard is that is harmful to the battery life. Because it actually just because of the way lithium ion, lithium ion technology works. So in fact, on my Mac, for instance, it has and a lot of phones these days, it has an option. So like on my Mac, I can tell it to stay at 80% charge all the time. So it’s never hitting 100%. And then if I know I’m heading out and I want full charge, I can just click a button and say charge to full now and then it’ll go to 100% before I go out on my you know wherever I’m going. So it’s my understanding that keeping it 100% charged is actually what’s damaging to the life of the battery. But again, I’m not an expert on that. That’s just what I have read and that’s the basis behind the feature in macOS that I was just telling you about. So thank you. Do I know if EMF can trigger seizures? I do not know if that is not. I’m not saying they don’t. That is not a health effect that I’ve I’ve read about

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Is there anything I can place around the perimeter of the laptop pad to absorb the waves better with a pad than not, but just trying to bring me EMF exposure as close to zero with Wi Fi and while playing videos that I need to do as part of my profession. So, I mean, yeah, you could, if you if you don’t have to plug in peripherals like like the wired keyboard or the power cord, you can Yeah, you could wrap something around around your, your, your laptop. So for instance, you know, the baby blanket could or some other type of product, you know, could could serve that purpose. I mean, putting shielding in that position would channel more of the radiation up? And so yeah, the answer is yes. Differences between laptops versus desktop versus tablets in terms of EMF potential? Well, like I said earlier, I mean, a lot will depend on what you’re doing with all of these devices, I’m sure it’s possible to get a tablet to emit more radiation than a laptop, for example, depending on what you’re doing on each device. But in general, I would say tablets are lower on elf than either a laptop or desktop. In terms of RF, it’s really just totally going to depend like if you’re streaming video versus typing an email versus being in airplane mode. That’s, that’s what the difference is going to be on the RF side. On the elf side, tablets are generally going to be lower. Also, on the heat side, I mean, I’m not I don’t use tablets that much. But when I’ve used them, they’ve never gotten nearly as hot as the computers that I’ve used. So I’d say on the heat side tablets are better on the elf side tablets are better. And on the RF side, it totally depends on what you’re doing. Does wired connections be improved with shielded wiring? Does the connection improve with shielded wiring, I do not believe that the connection improves with shielded wiring. I do know that Cathy cook covers this in her hardwire Internet course. So just because I mentioned this during the presentation, but just to show you all here, how to hardwire your internet. So you go to Courses and it’s just there. And in this course, she talks about shielded wiring, but I don’t believe it actually has any impact on the quality of the connection. Don’t earthing mat slash grounding mats produce unhealthy EMF as well? Give me a second. This is where I really should find this. I’m looking here for give me one second and I will, I’m almost positive I can find this. This link for you. Here we go copy link address. I’m going to put this here in the chat. It is a YouTube video of a prior webinar archive of hours that I did with Andrew McAfee. And it summarizes potential risks of grounding into the grid, which is what you’re doing when you’re using a grounding product like a grounding mat or something like that. Or even when you’re grounding EMF protection, like a painted wall or a canopy or something like that. Thank you

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Is there a way to stop 5g from coming into the house through walls and windows? I mean, she there’s shielding. You can get shielded film for your windows and you can get shielded paint for your walls. The thing is with 5g, a lot of it doesn’t come through walls or even glass, a lot of it is deflected. Which is it’s really an outdoor technology, at least in its current deployment. But to answer your question, yes, you can you can shield your Windows, you can put there’s film that you can put on to your windows. There’s paint that you can paint your walls with. And if you don’t want to put film on your windows, there’s shielded curtains that you can put on your windows. And so there are options for that. I strongly recommend that you work with an expert when you do that kind of implementation because if you do it wrong, you can end up amplifying your exposures based on you know, if you have bigger sources in the house than outside of the house and you put up shielding, you’re actually blocked deflecting more back into the house. So, but thank you is there a website for us to know how much ground current runs on underneath our homes, street village, that is a great question. I am not aware of one. I’m not aware of one. I’m aware of websites where you can see like what antenna coverage is, but that’s for that’s for wireless. I am not aware of websites that track ground current. That’s alright. But thank you for asking.

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Will you be sending a recording via email to the attendees? Yes, you 24 hours after the so tomorrow you’ll be getting the replay assuming the replay doesn’t fail. Other recording doesn’t fail, you’ll be getting the replay. Good questions. You mentioned heat, is the heat damaging? Can you briefly address this? What does it damage? Okay. So heat I often talk about this, but it’s never an indirect answer to a question is as direct as this. So EMF radiation of regulations, the regulations that exist around EMF are like the cell phone is not supposed to emit enough radiation to heat your body. And the I mean, the regulations have a lot of problems. But but at least right, at least that level of protection is supposed to exist. And the reason that exists is because everyone recognizes even the most conservative wireless industry engineer recognizes that when you heat human tissue, you cause damage that can cause DNA strand breaks, it can cause cellular apoptosis, where the cell kills itself. And these types of damage are what can lead to conditions like cancer. So these mechanisms are very clear, they’re universally accepted. And that’s why EMF regulations that do exist even exist at all is because they recognize that if there’s enough EMF to heat the tissue, that’s too much EMF. And so the same thing applies to the actual heating of human tissue. If you’re if you get sunburned, you can have the same type of damage, because you’ve heated the tissue to where it’s causing that that kind of damage. So I hope I was able to answer your question. But what a damage is, is the DNA and the cells in whatever part of body part of the body, the heating occurs. If the connection wire runs next to me while I sleep, would it be better to have a shielded wire? You know, it really depends on on what the emissions are from that wire. So what I would recommend is getting a meter and seeing if there even any detectable emissions coming off that wire. Well wait, when you say, let me be clear, when you say connection wire, I’m assuming you’re talking about Ethernet, rather than for instance, power cord. So if again, if it’s Ethernet, I would get a meter and see if you can even detect any emissions before investing in shielded wire. But that, that that so yeah, that’s how I would approach that situation.

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In my earlier question, I asked for the top five or so attributes to look for when buying a laptop, what are the things to look for where to consider paying extra for despite high use of computer will indirectly provide less EMF exposures? i That is okay. So I understand the clarification. It is not something I’ve ever thought about largely because I I’m a Mac guy. And so every time I go out to buy a computer, I just pick which Mac I want the running temperature. Okay, so here’s, I mean, again, it depends what you do, right? Because like, a MacBook Air is gonna run a lot cooler generally than a MacBook Pro. But if you’re doing high level, you know, video editing, just to pick an example. MacBook Air has ended up going to end up running a lot hotter than the Mac doing the MacBook Pro doing the same thing. Because the MacBook Pro just has so much more power. And so it can do that higher level stuff much more easily. So I guess what the answer to that question would be what the running temperature of the machine is, when doing the kinds of things that you would regularly be doing, because the RF generally, I mean, it’s not universal, but generally, the RF emissions are going to depend on what you’re doing. And they’re not going to differ that much between models. I mean, you definitely want to make sure that you can disable Bluetooth when you’re not using Bluetooth. And you can disable Wi Fi when you’re not using Wi Fi. But that’s built into the operating system, both Windows and Mac and, and Chrome, Chrome OS. So okay, so the other thing I would recommend is making sure you have enough peripheral ports, USB or USB C ports, that you can use wired options for everything that you need peripherals for so like, you can easily run enough connections. So you can have the wired wired keyboard, the wired trackball, the wired headset, whatever it is you’re doing. So those are two, I can’t think of five. But those are two I would definitely think of is what is the running temperature under normal your normal usage conditions, and get as many ports as you can, so that you never have a problem using wired peripherals instead of wireless peripherals. I hope that at least gave you some some guidance there. And you know what I will think about it. But again, you know, for 25 years have been using MAC’s so I just never think to compare all these different models from that perspective. And I don’t think that again, you know, going back to what I was saying earlier, not to your question, but to the question before yours from earlier, it’s a lot more about what you do on the machine and how you use the machine, then the machine itself.

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Oh, and what laptop spec would reactively benefit avoiding? Well, other than 5g laptops in general? Yeah, I mean, unless you need a cell phone modem in your laptop, definitely don’t get one. But even if you have one, you can turn that off at the at the software level. And, and make sure it’s not active. So that is it. So I’ve just repeat what I just said.

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Hmm. Okay, this is a good question. I’m not sure I’m going to have a fantastic answer for but for digital nomads, traveling city to city needing a stable connection is possible on our laptop, tablet for online meetings all day. Any EMF safe recommendations for someone considering buying a satellite broadband Starlink satellite connection. So our connection stays strong, how to protect ourselves, in addition to your pad below the device? Oh, well, so below the device, just want to make sure you’re talking about below the laptop, right not below the Starlink, you don’t want to put the laptop pad below the Starlink. This is fortunately something I don’t have to deal with. But I do see the benefits that something like Starlink brings. And I say that as someone who used to live in a very rural area where the only option was satellite. And at the time. I don’t know how many of you in this room have experienced with satellite. The only option at the time was a company that still exists. It’s called HughesNet. And I don’t want to get into details other than to say it wasn’t a fantastic experience. And I’d have never met anyone who’s had a fantastic experience with HughesNet, both in terms of the performance of the platform, but also the limitations about where it could be deployed. And, and so when and when you live in a rural air like a rear really rural area where you can’t I mean, even get dial up even if dial up was an option. And you know, functioning online is such a critical part of modern life. So I do understand why Starlink is a compelling option. Even as much as I really resent their reckless approach to sending the you know, 10s of 1000s, soon to be hundreds of 1000s of these satellites into low Earth orbit. But getting back to your question, I would say keep the device the system as far as like the satellite dish as far away from you as possible. When you do your setup, if you’re talking about being a nomad, right, that’s different from rural living, that’s sometimes you’ll be rural, you’ll be moving around a lot. So when you set up where you’re going move the satellite dish as far away from you as possible, then you don’t just because you’re using satellite doesn’t mean you need to use Wi Fi. So you can run a wired connection to all of your devices. So that would require bringing ethernet cables with you as well as the star I like setup. But that is deaf. That is, I mean, if you’re concerned about EMF exposure, that is what I would strongly recommend, and then turn it off when you’re not using it. So just Oh, and by the way, if you’re running, wired Ethernet from this applies whether you’re at home or I mean, I’m talking to you, but I’m also talking to everyone, if you’re, if you’re getting if you’re turning off Wi Fi in your house, like, if you’re turning off the Wi Fi router, if you’re getting rid of Wi Fi, or if you’re just turning it off at night, you also want to make sure to be turning the Wi Fi off on all of your devices. So that means like your laptop, your Smart TV, your cell phone, and so forth. And that is what’s going to really get rid of all of it. And in the house that you’re staying in. I hope that was a satisfactory answer. Why not put a laptop bat pad below a sterling? I guess? I mean, that would depend. I mean, if the Starlink thing were directly above your head, right? I mean, it all depends on the position of, of what you’re talking about. And I would need to know more about about the details of, of the position of everything involved in order to say that, but in general, you know, the laptop pad is meant for devices that you’re using in your lap, rather than, like shielding against things that are further away from you. And it really depends on relative position and so forth. Does using a wired mouse help as it keeps your fingers off the keyboard? Yeah, I mean, I Yes, that’s what I was showing you. I use a wired trackball and a wired keyboard. And even though my my, my MacBook has a perfectly functional keyboard, and perfectly functional trackpad, I only use it when I’m traveling. And instead, I you know, I’m always using a wired keyboard and mouse. Where would we look to purchase mobile hotspot devices and powerbanks for traveling? I mean, I if if it were me, you know, I use Amazon. I don’t know if there’s any better places for that sort of thing I’m not aware of, you know, like EMF stores that sell low EMF, powerbanks or anything like that. So I would just go to Amazon. Sometimes when I turned my Wi Fi off at night, my ps4 malfunctions because they like to do system updates at night. Do you know how to remedy this? I don’t know that in particular I be I mean. So I don’t know what malfunctions means in this case, or what is actually triggering it. Because if if your Wi Fi is off when it’s trying to do it, then it shouldn’t even start. And then I don’t see how an error would happen. If you’re turning off the Wi Fi in the middle of an update, I could see that being an issue. So then just make sure that your ps4 is not in the middle of an update when you turn off your Wi Fi. But I don’t have a PlayStation so I don’t have any basis of experience. I’m sorry to answer this question. I’d need to know more details. But I guess one thing, let me just oops, what did I do wrong? I did something I hit the wrong key. Does a ps4 have Ethernet? ps4 has Ethernet? There you go. I did come up with an answer. Use Ethernet. Just because you’re turning off the Wi Fi doesn’t mean you have to turn off your internet, you can plug in with Ethernet, and I’m looking here the ps4 does come with built in Ethernet port. So that would be a good way to address that. My children lose all their saved game info. I’m laughing I shouldn’t be I can imagine how devastating that is. So yeah, Ethernet would be the way around that. And then when you turn off your Wi Fi, make sure you’re just turning off your Wi Fi. You’re not turning off your whole internet

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if we don’t shut our computers down while on the go, is there a laptop case you recommend? No, I don’t. And I don’t know. I didn’t even I didn’t even think that you could use a laptop closed. And that’s because I mean, I guess it makes sense. But I’ve just never done that every time I have it set when I close my laptop it goes to sleep. So I hadn’t thought about that. So no, I’m not aware of one. So I lay my palms on the laptop as I type is this an issue or do you have a product that would help my hands? So if you’re worried about your hand exposure in that context, I don’t have a product but for instance less EMF does that That is gloves that you can you can use, that would would reduce the exposure to your hands on the keyboard, whether or not you’re using my laptop at the gloves would reduce your EMF exposure to your hands. So you’d look that it’s less emf.com and just search their site for gloves.

R Blank 1:20:28
My Wi Fi router has a limited number of Ethernet ports anyway, around that, yes, you buy a either, and Kathy covers this in the hardwire course. But the quick answer is you buy a hub or a switch, right? So you can just go on Amazon, you go to the local, I don’t remember what like Circuit City or Best Buy or whatever. And get an Ethernet hub or an Ethernet switch. They come in different sizes. So you get like a four port hub or an eight port hub, you can go all the way up to a consumer stores, I think they might sell 24 port switches. And then you can just run one cable from your router to this hub or switch. And then you can plug in as many of these devices as you need.

R Blank 1:21:25
Your hands get tingly hence the question on protection for palms. So yeah, I would recommend EMF gloves to see if that makes a difference. But you I mean, I don’t know if this is an option for you. But it definitely sounds like you should be using an external keyboard rather than keeping the laptop further. If you’re experiencing physical sensations like that from EMF exposure, I would strongly recommend adjusting your behavior, meaning your the way you’re using the source before getting into protection. And so if it’s past and I don’t know if it’s possible, because I don’t know your life. But if it’s possible, I would say keep that laptop away from you and put that money into an external keyboard rather than then using gloves. But if that’s not possible, then definitely try the gloves which again, less emf.com. Okay, okay now asked earlier, I said I would come back to it, how can I protect myself in a Tesla car by not using I’m sorry that that was flippant, but true. And that’s not to single out Tesla. I mean, there’s a lot of things I don’t like about Tesla, but this is something that’s true with all vehicles. So I have an article here on the website, and I am going to put this into chat. And so this is a much more detailed article than I’m going to summarize here. But cars are a significant source of EMF, they are essentially an unregulated source of EMF, meaning there is no regulation about how much EMF a car can emit. And I’ve looked, and I’ve asked a lot of people, and if anyone thinks I’m wrong, please prove it to me, because I would love to learn that there are actually regulations on this stuff. And cars are multiple sources of EMF, depending on the vehicle, I have a very low tech car, like super low tech car, it did have a Bluetooth radio, and it was broken into and the radio was stolen. And we paid extra to when we were replacing the radio, we had to pay extra to get a non Bluetooth radio to put in the car. But we did. And so now it doesn’t even have Bluetooth. But even that car, which is a traditional combustion engine, and doesn’t have Bluetooth, that is going to be a source of EMF just because of the way you know, I mean, these things have electricity, they have batteries, they’re converting power, you know, between gas and battery, and so forth. So even that car is a source. But that’s a really low tech car, as if you go back even 15 years or at least 10 years, you’re starting to get these features in cars, like Bluetooth, but then Bluetooth wasn’t enough, right? And to support the data communication requirements of all of these features like Android CarPlay, and Apple CarPlay. And all of these things. So they added Wi Fi. Because I remember just it was last year I rented a car, I was traveling, I rented a car, and I figured you know what I want to see what the feature because I told you I have a super low tech car. So I don’t use any of these Bluetooth features. But I just like oh, let me see what it’s like to navigate you know, to use CarPlay for playing music or getting directions and so forth. And I saw I turned on Bluetooth. And the friggin car managed to force turn on Wi Fi on my phone, because it said it needed that in order to support the data transfer requirements of the stuff it was doing. I was like, I didn’t ask for this. But then it’s not just that right with the when it comes to Tesla’s, they have all sorts of and it’s not just Tesla’s, they have the most sophisticated in general, but it’s not just Tesla’s and they’re using Lidar and other wireless emission technologies, plus Tesla’s don’t just use Wi Fi for in the car, they use cell, they use data transmission to get over the air updates to the software that runs the car. And so you’re starting to talk about a ton of these individual sources all in one vehicle. Now, what can you do to protect yourself up there’s really nothing the only option is EMF, shielding apparel, which SOP has some other companies have some. And there’s like I have a cap, I have men’s underwear, I have a neck gaiter. Other companies have t shirts, and hoodies, and ponchos and stuff like that. So there’s all these kinds of options. But that’s really all you can do. And this isn’t just for cars. This is also out for environment. Like if you’re walking down the street in a high enough area, the only thing you can do to protect yourself is apparel, generally. And the problem there is, you know, unless you’re going to wear literally a body suit, some part of you is going to be exposed, but you can protect areas that are of concern to you. So for instance, if your thyroid is a particular concern to you as it is for for some people, a scarf and EMF scarf or an EMF neck gator, that would be a good option. Or if the male gonads, reproductive organs are of particular concern to you, you know, the EMF underwear would be a really good option. And then you can do this picking and choosing of the protection that you’re using. But that’s really it. So it’s not like there’s a product that you can put in the car to make it safer. And as it comes to these vehicles with a lot of them, you can’t just say like in some cars, you can disable Bluetooth, you can disable Wi Fi. But when it comes to things like these Lidar and the set of the distance sensors and the lane sensors, and as you get into more and more self driving technology, you’re not able to disable those and those all rely on wireless EMF emissions in order to function. So that is my answer. But I would also encourage you to check that link that I just put into chat, which is an article that Kathy wrote about cars and EMF radiation

R Blank 1:27:54
Okay, so product info says the pouch, the pouch, the pouch shields 95% of EMF, my tester says it only shielded 75% Why the difference. So for that, I would encourage you to email my customer support with the details of your test. So for that I would need to know, because I’m happy to step through that with you, I but in order to do that, I’d need to know like what meter you were using, and and how you were testing what else was in the environment and so forth. Still, I would say 75% is is is a pretty significant reduction. Also, I don’t say that my pouch shields 95% I it the way it works is it shields up to 99%. But a lot depends on how you’re using the devices. So, but I am happy to actually step through your testing. Because a lot of times there are other factors involved and I’m happy to work through that with you. So that’s Hello at shield your body.com and, and and send in as much information about your test as possible. And we’ll we’ll we’ll work with you to address it. Thank you. Okay, seeing if there’s any new Oh, hold on. So Ay ay ay s which cars do I recommend? You know, cars are really personal. I recommend as low tech a car is possible. I have. I have a I don’t want to say the specific model. I have a super low tech car like I was saying I mean, it basically has an engine and a steering wheel and I we both just love this car. It is so much fun. But in general I say get the lowest tech car possible. But you know increasingly that’s hard. If you’re buying new there are based almost no low tech options left If so then that means, you know, getting the lowest tech version. So like, for instance, self, I was mentioning self driving technology, which obviously isn’t full self driving yet, but exists to varying degrees, that is going to add a fair amount. If the kind of car that you’re buying does over the air software updates from the manufacturer, that’s going to add, make sure that it can disable Wi Fi and Bluetooth. And that it actually works to disable it. It doesn’t just tell you, it’s disabling them that it actually disables them. So though, oh, but from a top level, if you’re concerned about your EMF emissions, and that concern outweighs your concerns for the environment. Well, actually, that’s not even a fair statement. Because there’s there’s a whole bunch of things around the production of lithium ion battery. So I don’t want to get into that politics. If you’re just looking at this from the perspective of EMF emissions. Traditional combustion engines are the lowest electric or higher, and then hybrid are actually the highest in general and absent other like if you have Wi Fi in the car, that’s going to add to it. But just from the perspective of the engine, it’s combustion, or the lowest electric or second and then hybrid are the highest. And that’s because hybrids need to have this inverter. And inverters are really big sources of EMF emissions. So hybrids are actually just up from the basis of the engine. Hybrids are the highest levels of emissions. And traditional combustion engines are the lowest. So I hope that was responsive. And someone this isn’t a question but looks like someone wants to share it. This person, because she reacts to EMF exposures, she took an energy medicine class, presented by Dr. Melanie Smith online, she is totally informative, and taught protocols to to mitigate exposure. She is a master teacher in Eden energy medicine, but also has a degree in Chinese medicine. Okay, well, there you go. I have no experience with this person. But one of our attendees tonight really speaks highly of it. So I think I got everything. And that was a good round. That was a good round of q&a. So Oh, and I’ve been hiding this. So a reminder, and oh, most of you stuck around for for the full hour of q&a. I really appreciate. I really appreciate you coming out today. I know it’s it’s kind of you know, it’s peak summer. And it’s kind of kind of hard to focus on things when you just want to be out, relaxing, or going to the beach or going to see Mission Impossible, which I hope to be doing this weekend. So thank you for taking the time today to come out to this webinar. Thank you for sticking around for an hour of q&a. It was a great q&a. A reminder that this discount this 35% discount on laptop pads is through midnight tonight pacific time and the code is pad now. And again that’s just for it’s through midnight tonight. So if you’re waiting to get the replay that they will not work so the code is pad now and you just go to shield your body.com/laptop pad, pick the kind you want and go for it. Thank you once again and have a wonderful rest of your day.

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R Blank is the CEO of Shield Your Body, which he founded in 2012. With hundreds of thousands of customers in over 30 countries, and having been interviewed on platforms including Dr. Phil, ABC news television and ElectricSense, R is an internationally followed expert on issues of EMF, health and safety. He also hosts “The Healthier Tech Podcast”, available iTunes, Spotify and all major podcasting platforms. In the past, he served on the faculty at the University of Southern California Viterbi School of Engineering as well as the University of California, Santa Cruz. Previously, R ran a software engineering firm in Los Angeles, producing enterprise-level solutions for blue chip clients including Medtronic, Apple, NBC, Toyota, Disney, Microsoft, the NFL, Ford, IKEA and Mattel. He has spoken at conferences around the world, including in the US, Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands, and he is the co-author, along with his father Dr. Martin Blank, of ‘Overpowered‘ from Seven Stories Press about the science of health effects of EMF radiation. He has an MBA from the UCLA Anderson School of Management and received his bachelor’s degree, with honors, from Columbia University. He has also studied at Cambridge University in the UK; the University of Salamanca in Spain; and the Institute of Foreign Languages in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia. Read more about R and SYB or connect with R on LinkedIn.

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